RE: The Economist 1988's Front Cover Foretelling a World Currency in 2018 - Is This True?
Terence McKenna:
Into that dimension of anxiety created by this inability to parse reality rushes a bewildering variety of squirrelly notions, epistemological cartoons if you will. Conspiracy theory, in my humble opinion, is a kind of epistemological cartoon about reality.
Isn’t it so simple to believe that things are run by the greys, and that all we have to do is trade sufficient fetal tissue to them and then we can solve our technological problems, or isn’t it comforting to believe that the Jews are behind everything, or the Communist Party, or the Catholic Church, or the Masons. Well, these are epistemological cartoons, it is kindergarten in the art of amateur historiography.
I believe that the truth of the matter is far more terrifying, that the real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control, absolutely no one. This stuff is ruled by the equations of dynamics and chaos. There may be entities seeking control, but to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself. It’s like trying to control a dream.
LOVE THIS QUOTE!
Wow didn't know there was such a quote from Terrence :) thank you
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Excellent McKenna reference and highly appropriate. Thnx for sharing.
Very interesting quote.
What do you think about the following one? Do you think it's possible Terence McKenna may have been recruited by the authorities in exchange for them turning a blind eye regarding his hash smuggling operation?
He's talking about they as in the "aliens". ☺ Too many buzzwords in the video before the actual audio: "obviously", "clearly", "100%", " etc. He always joked about this. He said that in the '70 was broke and running from the police and then he discovered magic mushrooms and it gave him purpose and meaning. He started giving presentations, writting books and spreading the ideas he developed/received by using mushrooms. ☺
Think about this for a moment. Let's say Terence was recruted by whatevet agency. What was the point? To popularize the use of psychedelics to the general public? Because that's what he did. To promote illegal activities? Because that's what he did. To speak against war mongering assholes and control freak politicians and authorities? Because that's what he did. Terence had a very anarchic message. Also, the people that tried psychedelics know how the pyschedelic experience is freeing the mind from all the bullshit that these agencies and authorities fill us with.
Conspiracy minded people are so silly when it comes to certain topics. They fail to understand the use of methaphors and humour in this case. And sometimes they're just dumb.
The CIA and the army studied how they can use psychedelics for their own purposes but they stopped when they saw the results varied wildly from person to person. They couldn't control the outcome. Control freaks don't care about things they can't control the outcome of.
People who keep talking about MK-ULTRA and mind control through the use of psychedelics either they're bullshiting or they haven't tried psychedelics. It's impossible to control the psychedelic experience. Or so I've heard. ☺
If someone wants to talk about mind control through spreading lies/misinformation/propaganda using electronic mediums then yeah, I'm all for that. You know, misinformation like for example, conspiracy theories. ☺
Yes, that's about the argument of Jan Irvin. That the counterculture was encouraged and propagated to a certain point by such an entity as the CIA for the purpose of debasing the values of society. He would call ideas such as the one being put forth in The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Allegro as weaponized anthropology. It's well known that the CIA has been involved in drug smuggling, in mind control experiments, and in the entertainment industry. So I don't see why thinking Mckenna getting off scot-free after being caught doing something illegal, while supposedly being a threat to the authorities, and then making ambiguous jokes about him being recruited by ''they'' (note that FBI is something like seven sentences closer to ''they'' than the word alien) could only mean that ''conspiracy-minded people'' are silly/dumb, for that the misinterpretation would solely fall on them. In this case, I think the responsibility of discombobulation rather falls on McKenna.
B.t.w., I forgot to mention that I don't think McKenna's ideas about the concept of a ''mother of all conspiracies'' (that's what it is because whether people like it or not conspiracies do exist) and the possibility of him having been entangled in some intelligence apparatus aren't mutually exclusive. Both make sense to me. :-)
I hadn't seen your three last paragraphs when I started answering you.
A predictable hyper-suggestibility outcome out of the use of a particular psychotomimetic substance supposedly does exist with the consumption of scopolamine:
This is how I first heard about it:
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I think psychedelics are like ''conspiracy theories'', you can't put them into a single block as all being the same without the risk of creating a straw man argument. So yes, I agree with some conspiracy theories probably being used as a disinformation tool to spread cognitive dissonance, and with some others fitting in the urban legend category, while the rest must be falling in line with the where there's smoke, there's fire idiom.
Scopolamine is not a psychedelic. It's a deliriant if used in high amount doses. Not the same thing.
Fair enough. According to Wikipedia:
Found on the CIA's website:
It can give hallucinations. As a psychoactive agent, it's in the same larger nomenclature of hallucinogen.
You're right, it is usually not classified as a psychedelic, nor as a dissociative, but rather as a deliriant:
Maybe I should have used the word drugs instead of psychedelics in my last paragraph.
Again on Wikipedia, the full scope of the drugs used in Project MKUltra seems rather vague: