thank you @stortebeker, that really saddens me to read that, but then women only started to give birth lying down because it was a trend that King Louis started cos he wanted to be the first to see the sex of his child and everyone followed suite because if the royals done it then they should. It is just much more painful to have to lie down. I really hope more and more women become involved in re educating one another about the importance of natural birth, how it is best for baby and the mother xx