Steem Basic Income - A Waterfall of Sustainability

Steem Basic Income

Steem Basic Income is a social experiment to bring a basic income to as many Steemians as possible. Members join by sponsoring others into the program. Steem Basic Income is delivered through providing regular upvotes to member content.

A Waterfall of Sustainability

Imagine a beautiful stream of water running down a mountainside. It finds a hollow and fills it up, creating a pool. When that pool is filled, the water runs over the side and continues down the mountain. Maybe the path leads to a drop-off, and water sprays over the side, pouring down as a cascade, a waterfall. At its base, the waterfall carves out another pool and fills it with water, then continues to flow downhill. Maybe there are many pools, each filled with a rush of water from the pool before it, as the stream continues down the mountain, enriching the lives of all who see it and providing for those in the valley below.


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Let's reimagine @steembasicincome as a pool of SP, spraying out basic income to all the members. The size and shape of the pool limit it to 500 members, but that doesn't limit @steembasicincome to 500. The SP bubbles over and starts to fill a second pool. New members come into the second pool (and occasionally promote to the first pool as spots become available).

In the extended introduction, we talked about the impact of dilution on the pool; new members draw voting weight away from existing members, which prevents the program from improving the SP per member ratio and increasing the basic income that everyone receives. Creating a series of pools, where SP waterfalls from the first pool into each successive gives us a long-term solution to that problem.

The Dirty Math

SP will start in @steembasicincome. As shares are assigned to the second pool (@sbi2), @steembasicincome will delegate SP at a rate of 2 SP per share. In addition 25% of @steembasicincome's permanent (non-delegated) SP will be delegated to the second pool. As the SP grows for @steembasicincome, the SP will grow for @sbi2. The upvote value will continue to grow, without new members diluting the existing members.

For example, suppose that the second pool is launched with 100 shares. It will receive SP delegation of (2 * 100 = 200) to cover the shares in the pool and ensure they receive a fair basic income. It will also receive an SP delegation of 25% of @steembasicincome's permanent SP (783 * .25 = 195.75) This starting delegation of 395.75 (3.9575 per share) gives the members of pool 2 an upvote value that is close to the upvote value received by the members of pool 1 (4.14 SP per share) As new members come into pool 2, the enrollment fees will still be paid to @steembasicincome, but it will delegate new SP to pool 2, targeting 2 SP voting power per member, plus 25% of the permanent SP in pool 1.

When pool 2 is full, it will spill over into pool 3, which will receive delegation from pool 1, targeting 2 SP voting power per share in pool 3, plus delegation from pool 2 representing 25% of its permanent SP. And so on . . . until every Steemian is swimming in Steem Basic Income!

Member reassignment

Each member can have a maximum of 100 shares in each pool. If any member (here's looking at you, @sneakyninja) has more than 100 shares, they will be capped at 100 in the first pool and the remaining shares will take part in the next pool. Bonus shares from delegation or upvoting will not be counted against this limit.

Inactive members that have not posted in 90 days will be reassigned to the pool that new members flow into. This creates space for active members to promote up into pools that are in sustainable growth phase.

Paused members are not receiving any benefit from their positions, since their upvote weights are too small to actually receive upvotes. Since pool 2 will have fewer shares (even though the SP per member is comparable), paused members would typically come unstuck by moving into the 2nd pool. Any member that is paused for more than 1 week will be moved into the next pool so they can become unstuck.

After announcing a temporary cap (which we are now able to remove with the launch of our 'Waterfall of Sustainability,' we had quite a few questions from our most recent members about whether they would be wait-listed. There will be no more wait list (other than the normal 1-2 day wait for enrollments to be processed). We will publish a full roster tomorrow showing the membership of both pools, and giving members an opportunity validate their share counts and let us know if they see any issues.

Logo Contest

To celebrate the launch of our new 'Waterfall of Sustainability' we are havimng a logo contest. So far, every image used by @steembasicincome is either a screen-shot snippet, an infographic, or sourced from pixabay. It's time to see the creativity that we know is swimming in the pool!

There are two categories for entry:

  1. A smaller logo that will look great as our profile picture.
  2. A banner that we can use as our cover image.

The winning graphics will be the graphics we use here in user settings:

Please submit your graphics as responses to this post. Entry will close when this post pays out. At that time we will do a post featuring all of the entries and let members comment and vote on which images we should use.

Each winner will receive 5 shares, and be able to designate Steemians for another 5 shares (equivalent to a 5 SP enrollment transaction - donated by @josephsavage). They can split the 5 however they would like (all 5 to one person, or 1 each to 5 different people).

Delegation Bonus Shares

Existing members can receive bonus shares from delegation. For every 25 SP delegated to @steembasicincome, members will receive 1 bonus share. These bonus shares will be removed if the delegation is withdrawn. Currently each share receives a weekly voting weight of roughly 5.61%.

To simplify the tracking, all members should delegate to @steembasicincome. If the delegating member is not in pool 1, their delegation to @steembasicincome will be added to the delegation sent by @steembasicincome to the pool they are actually in.

These bonus shares will be counted before the bonus shares from upvoting @steembasicincome. So if you have 1 share, received 4 bonus shares from delegation of 100 SP, and then upvoted @steembasicincome regularly, you could potentially receive upvote weight equivalent to 10 shares instead of only 1!

Any Steemian that is already enrolled in @steembasicincome can delegate as much as they would like, to receive bonus shares. The approximate APR for this delegation is 27%. That's a 27% annual return to boost everybody's basic income. I don't think it gets much better than that! If you are not already a member but would like to delegate, please send an enrollment transaction to @steembasicincome and we will add your bonus shares at the time we process your enrollment.

We've had a few members take us up on this, and their upvote weight has been increased to reflect their bonus shares:

Here are some Handy Delegation links:

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Enrollment

Sounds intriguing... How do I sign up?

Send 1 STEEM to @steembasicincome. Include the name of a Steemian to sponsor in the comments. You and the person you sponsor will each receive 1 share in the program (or be wait-listed).

Questions?

As always, we recognize that this is a lot to process. We are working on a full overview that will capture all of the recent changes. If you have any questions, ask away in the comments section!

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Hello ! Do you allow me to translate your post in French ? I'm sure that the French Community would be interested to know better about @steembasicincome and discuss about it !

That would be great! Please be sure to link to the original when you post.

Ok, I made that post : https://busy.org/fr/@soushi888/traduction-steem-basic-income-une-cascade-de-perennite

I translated all this article and I added some informations from your previous one. Like that it's a complete presentation in French for the newcommers.

Thanks for translating! Resteeming your post now.

Thank you to you !!! :) It's an honor to contribute to this project !

I decided to delegate 25 sp! Thanks for doing this awesomeness

Thanks for your support! Your voting weight has been increased accordingly.

Dear @steembasicincome. I am new here and happily excited to be part of a basic income experiment, as I am interested about the idea already for quite some time.
I have a few beginners questions:

1: Is there a discord chat for communicating and joining in the discussion? I would be very happy about a direct communication channel.

2: Is there a way to see how many people make part of this, what their names are and how many shares they have as that is very important for transparency.

3: Instead of using SteemVoter, do you have the possibility to program your own bot and maybe even link it to a simple graphing webpage that runs by itself to make daily / weekly / monthly summaries for all members to gain insight? That would be amazing!

4: To make this really work it must be possible to receive the income also without doing anything, otherwise we are nothing else but a vote bot and can really call it basic income. So how can we pay EVERYONE making part of this? Maybe through a steem transaction?

1: Is there a discord chat for communicating and joining in the discussion?

We have a channel within the @earthnation discord now. https://discord.gg/fpSnkFM

2: Is there a way to see how many people make part of this

We previously published this every couple of days and now will be publishing this weekly. I'm working on it right now and it will come out in a few hours.

3: Instead of using SteemVoter, do you have the possibility to program your own bot

This is part of our long-term plan.

4: To make this really work it must be possible to receive the income also without doing anything

What you are suggesting would require us to have an outside source of income that would create a STEEM flow that could be directly paid out.
In fact what makes @steembasicincome work is that the income is paid out through upvotes- meaning the income is newly created SP/SBD. That doesn't requires us to have outside cash flows.
When we program our own bot, we will enhance it to deliver to comments along with posts, so that active Steemians that register as inactive because they post infrequently can still receive their upvotes. It will always pay out using upvotes, not STEEM transactions.

Thank you for your answers @steembasicincome. Very much appreciated!

Where can I check stauts of how many shares I have, how many steem other people sent for me and so on?

We will publish a full member list in a few hours (working on it now). To check before then (or to verify the number is accurate, search for your user-name in https://steemit.com/@steembasicincome/transfers to count how many times you have sponsored or have been sponsored.

Hi steembasicincome I don't think your bot has given me the upvote ??? please check my account thanks you harj

Thanks for letting us know. We are double-checking that all the voting weights are still correct today before the membership update. Yours was inaccurate and it tried to give a 0% upvote. That's caught up manually now.

thank you steembasic : ) I sponserd @sames with 1steem and he sponserd me with one steem.

The second entry hasn't been processed yet, but it will be today.

thank you basicincome

I dont have any idea but I received a confirmation that says @melooo182 enrolled me here. All I know is everytime I posted, I received a 1% vote from @steembasicincome. Thank you and especially to @melooo182 .

Happy to hear you've got this sorted! Just delegated 500 SP your way!

How does the upvoting work again? Can I set another account to auto-upvote, I have trouble enough managing my personal vote, let me know how we could make that work ;)

Blessings!

Wow, that's very generous! I've updated your voting weight so you will see the impact of that delegation in the future upvotes that you receive.

The upvoting provides additional bonus to your voting weight, based on the frequency and size of your upvotes. We use @steemvoter to manage our upvotes to members, and a lot of members use @steemvoter to automate their upvotes on our posts. There are other services out there too if you do some digging.

Happy to throw my SP around!

I haven't been able to find the mathematical description of how voting affects shares by frequency and size, I'm sure its in one of your great updates, if you could link me there I would appreciate it. I do use an autovoter, but not on my main account, so I'm wondering if I can put one of my autovote accounts to upvote and get the credit (based on the SP of the autovote account) on this account. The math part would help me decide how much SP I want to be autovoting with.

So far voting power has seemed to me to be a lot like money, you always wish you had a little bit more ;p

Blessings!

The announcement with the calculation details is here:
https://steemit.com/basicincome/@steembasicincome/steem-basic-income-some-program-changes

We don't have anything in place yet that permits autovoting with one account and receiving the benefit with another. I will do some calculations and see how it factors into the rest of the moving parts.

Sounds great!

Ok, so I read that again, but it seems like a ranking or percentile system within the group of voters, and I don't see any calculation about SP behind the vote. Being realistic, allowing an autovoting account, there would need to be a calulation about the power behind the vote. Interested to hear what you come up with!

Thanks a lot, you are doing a great service indeed.

If you've got the time, I'd like to see some more detailed math. Right now in my head I'm picturing that the waterfall effect ends up being detrimental to pool 1 in the long run, but I know I'm missing a few details, and it would be helpful if you could fill those in.

Let's say a new sponsor-sponsored pair enters into pool #2. 1 STEEM has been sent in to the main account, which powers up 0.5 and then uses the other 0.5 to purchase a delegation lease. I presume that the lease is for more than enough SP to cover the 4 SP that would be delegated to pool #2. However, the lease only provides a temporary boost. After the lease expires, we end up with the main account having taken in 0.5 SP and giving out 4 SP, for a net of -3.5 SP. Now we add to that 75% of the rewards that the main account earns (because 25% gets reassigned to pool #2), and this is where the numbers turn murky because I don't know what those reward numbers are. So for now, I'm seeing this...

long-term effect on pool #1 per pair of new members = -3.5 SP + 0.75 * (unknown amount).

Can you fill in the rest and/or tell me what I did wrong here?

I think I see what you're missing. At the start it's ~4 SP per share, but there are two separate components that contribute to that.

it will delegate new SP to pool 2, targeting 2 SP voting power per member, plus 25% of the permanent SP in pool 1.

The first component is the 2 SP delegation (targeting 2 SP voting power), and the second component is 25% of pool 1's SP. Since that won't grow as quickly as pool 2 grows its share count, the effective SP per share of pool 2 will gradually decrease toward 2 SP, until it maxes out its membership and we start pool 3. That's the growth dilution that we keep talking about. Then the effective SP per share of pool 2 will start to gradually grow again.

When pool 1 receives the 1 STEEM for registrations into pool 2, it will lease just enough new delegation to offset the growth dilution from the increasing the delegation to pool 2. The rest will be powered up to the benefit of both pools. There is still some risk of the effective SP dropping after delegations start to expire. That was always a risk that will be offset by the upvotes members give to @steembasicincome posts (upvote behavior is a big part of what drives the long-term sustainability).

I hope this helped, but let us know if you have any further questions!

My reference point is 4 SP per pair, which is effectively the original 2 SP per share you mentioned. However, I got confused on the procedure of what happens with the 1 STEEM when there are new sign-ups into pool #2, so thanks for clearing that up.

If the end result is that the 2 SP per share delegated to pool #2 comes from a lease, and then when the lease expires so does the delegation (thereby requiring pool #2 to rely on its own earnings plus its 25% share from pool #1 from that point forward), then the whole system makes sense. I hope that I've correctly understood how the waterfall works now.

@steembasicincome I had no idea what I was getting into when I signed up for this service, I've noticed consistently that every post I make gets an upvote from you, thank you so much 💡☘️🎂☺️

Yes, that's what you were getting into... It's good to hear that you're enjoying it!

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