That's REALLY Cool! But I Just Don't Think Anyone Will PAY That For It!

in #art7 years ago

When you're in sales-- and especially selling art-- you get to overhear an interesting cross section of commentary from visitors.

My wife and I both eavesdrop and listen carefully to what people are saying... which tends to be fairly candid as long as people still think we're "just employees," rather than the proprietors of the gallery.

So What Have We Learned?

On the plus side, it's very gratifying to overhear people call our little establishment "one of the coolest stores they've ever been to" and "my new favorite store" and "Awesome" and "Beautiful."

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"Let Your Horses Run" ceramic plaque by Sarah Fitch

It's also nice to hear that many people have an open appreciation for many different kinds of art... even though some of the "weird art" we sometimes have on the wall seems to zoom right over some folks' heads.

On the minus side is a kind of "disconnect" over the cost-- or price-- of art. With the exception of a tiny handful of people who are art collectors and patrons who fully understand the creative process, public perception of what a piece of art "should" cost and what it actually costs typically presents a huge gap.

Sometimes we are able to have candid conversation with visitors and we've gradually come to see that the public perception of "non-elite" (as in, not created by a famous artist) art is that it should only cost about 20-25% of what it actually costs. For example, we hear people say "I'd probably get that for $100" about a piece we have on the wall for $375 or $450. 

Inconsistency of Value

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"Fire Starter" original pastel by Megan Buccere

What's also interesting-- and occasionally a little depressing-- is how hard someone will work to find the least expensive item in the gallery-- usually a $2 art postcard-- just so they can buy something from their new favorite store.

So what's the problem?

Now maybe this sounds a bit like a case of sour grapes, but it's the incongruence of the situation that baffles me, because this same person struggling to find a $2 postcard is carrying bag with several $25 bottles of flavored olive oil from the very swank store across the street.

The bottom line becomes that there's a major gap between the degree to which people are willing to verbally and emotionally support artists and the arts... and the degree to which they back it up, financially.

The REALITY of "The Myth of the Starving Artist"

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"The Phoenix- Death" print from the Shadowscapes Tarot, art by Stephanie Puy-Mun Law

And it's not a pretty picture, if you're an artist: If you were to offer your work at prices that were in alignment with the broader perception of "fair pricing," you'd be agreeing to work for less than half the current minimum wage.

Of course, some would insist that "artists shouldn't be creating for the MONEY-- that's selling out!"

Whether or not I agree with that statement is irrelevant here... the fact remains that artists also have to pay rent, pay for electricity and eat-- just like you and me-- and that takes money.

For the "functionalists" who want to debate that point with me, I typically point out that we can also just STOP creating art and use that same time to go to work at a paying job... at which point surprisingly find themselves caught in the hypocrisy of strongly wanting there to BE art, but not wanting to afford artists a living wage. 

And yet? They would never consider selling their lawyering, doctoring, accounting, or carpentry services "at cost." 

"Yeah, but that's different," the argument goes.

Is it? Is it really?

Share your opinion: Are artists-- and particularly "career" artists-- any less entitled to receive "fair compensation" for their talents and efforts than anyone else? Is the argument "yeah but it's not an essential product or service" a valid argument for leaving a profession undercompensated? Is art "worth" less because it is "frivolous?"

The Red Dragonfly is an independent alternative art gallery located in Port Townsend, WA; showcasing edgy and unique contemporary art & handmade crafts by local and worldwide artists. All images are our own, unless otherwise credited. Artist images used with permission.

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Fantastic post, THANK YOU!!! This is a subject that needs to be shared, discussed and pondered and so rarely is in any coherent way. You have real experience and have expressed the realities here so clearly and palatably, breath of fresh air to me a fellow artist who has these realities running through my life daily. resteemed and 100% - rare for me

@natureofbeing, thanks for your supportive words... and for the vote and resteem!

It's a "dodgy" topic, at best... and one that is seldom talked about by artists because the artist inevitably ends up being made to feel like either (a) they are just an ungrateful whiny little twat or (b) they have sold out.

I wanted to share this as objectively as possible, both as an artist myself AND as someone who had an art gallery in a larger city (Austin, TX) for 15 years and my wife and I have a small independent gallery here in our little seaside town of 10,000.

Keeping that objectivity in mind, I definitely AM well aware that art is a bit like professional sports... the number of people who actually become "superstars" who get to create and sell their pieces for $20K a piece during their lifetime are few and far between. That's ONE reality.

HOWEVER... the other reality (to use these examples) is that pro sports are OVER valued while art is UNDER valued. Earlier this year a (really very nice) man with his little daughter stood in our shop and allowed her to pick out one of my pieces-- priced at $65-- and then quite openly declared "This man is a very talented artisan, so hold onto this!" Then, on noticing the $65 price tag, continued: "He's also a very skilled highway robber..." because "skill" notwithstanding, he was expecting to get something for "a handful of change."

Examined at a higher level, that almost reduces artists to "roadside beggars" who just happen to be a little more honorable than common panhandlers because at least they give you something for your "donation."

I realize that might sound a bit "militant" and I am totally not looking to become some "spoiled prima donna" here... I'm just wanting to educate the wider world to the idea that a lot of hours and passion go into these creations that are often being devalued as a result of-- mostly-- ignorance.

I completely understand your point of view and the pitfalls of being perceived as winey, ungrateful etc....
This is an almost inconceivable reality in almost any other field of work and very difficult to truly get the ideas across.

I was thinking yesterday about how to raise awareness about just how much we rely on visual, musical, written forms of creativity each and everyday and how much we take it for granted. I was wondering if doing a story challenge here on steemit - asking people to share their stories about art that people love - The piece they bought and just love so much, the one that got away, the public art piece they make an effort to walk by on the way to work, favorite poem and the impact it's had for them etc.... It can be about a poem, a song, a piece of visual art, a garden etc....with these kinds of things there is always a story.

It seems to me that building an awareness of our personal relationship with evidence of creativity is a step in the right direction.

Do you have any ideas about how to build the value of art/creativity?

@natureofbeing, similar things do happen in other fields.

For example, writers face the hurdle of being told "We'd love to publish your article, but we're not paying for submissions at the moment-- but it will look GREAT on your resume to say that you were published by us!"

In the advertising design field, graphic designers are often expected to "spec" logos and designs for free, as a "goodwill gesture" in hopes of gaining a long term client... but often they just end up with nothing.

That said, I do like the idea of some community engagement challenges of some kind-- asking people (and artists) in general to share their impressions of "what matters" to them about art. Maybe even with rotating monthly topics. Definitely something I will give some thought.

I think central; to building "value" for creative fields is an effort to "personalize" art. That is... get people to stop thinking about art/creative expression as a "thing," and get them to think more about the person behind the creation. Once you humanize something, people are less likely to be dismissive of it. In a sense, it's a bit like the Internet... people are less likely to be rude and trollish with someone they have actually met IN PERSON, outside the virtual environment.

Thanks for your thoughts... I would say its a lack of education on people, I believe most of them don't really 'respect' the talent, sensibility, or any of the skills an artist require to pull out his work.
We are just trained in logic, math and 'dominant' hemisphere tasks. The 'non-dominant hemisphere' activities such as intuition, contemplating, or even playing... are never developed (and never rewarded).
Exactly, they just think about our 'services' as frivolous.
Besides, this is a main concern especially for artists living in under-developed countries where most people is struggling to make a living and even if they would love to possess artwork they simply can't afford it. Thanks again, greetings from MX

Thank you @erre for your comment!
What you say is very true, particularly in the "western" world... we value thinking-industrial-mechanical much higher than feeling-intuitive-creative.
Art doesn't "do" anything, it only makes us feel something... and feelings have no monetary value to people.
And yes, I can only imagine that the situation is much more difficult in under-developed and developing countries.

I think I almost shed a tear of gratitude for this. As a contemporary, mostly surrealist artist, the disparity of verbal to financial support is staggering.

I even had one person once compliment my work, STEAL a piece, then try to give me job hunting advice without me having asked for any. Needless to say, we are no longer friends.

Resteemed, and followed.

Thanks for the kind words @rachelsvparry!

And "ouch," that hurts. Reminds me of the guy who was in the gallery, very complimentary of my art, and then described me (to his young daughter) as "very skilled at highway robbery, as well."

We have enough small pieces at our gallery to need to worry about theft... and I find it stunning that people like art well enough to want to risk stealing it, but not well enough to pay for it.

Double ouch! Not only rude, but he's also publicly teaching his child disdain towards artists... That hurts!

We have to have thick skins in this business, don't we? Sigh.

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