Stop Sexual Harassment On Anarchists
As anarchists and voluntaryists, we often have our own thoughts and ways of expressing them. I know what it’s like to have someone get nasty at me. What crosses the line for me, however, is when it gets into sexual harassment.
I tried to give someone my opinion today on something he said. I’ve looked at this guy as someone who is very influential in the anarchist movement. I’ve watched some of his videos and read some of his posts. Sometimes I agree with him… sometimes I don’t.
Today I watched a video of his. I found it contrary that his video talked about stopping attacking someone I support… but then he also set off to attack him further in the same video.
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@kafkanarchy84/correction-of-a-mistake-and-final-clarification-on-why-i-reject-a-kokesh-presidency
I decided to call him out on it. I didn’t expect this reply from an intellectual, father, free thinker, accuser of others, and fellow anarchist.
I’m by no means a feminist. Don’t get me wrong. But in this day and age… with what we are fighting against… why would you seek to use such crude sexual language to someone criticizing you? This guy is breaking my opinion of who anarchists and voluntarists are.
I don’t know what my point of writing all this is, but I guess I just want an apology. I want to be in a world where we can trade ideas… even get passionate about them. But not sexually harass each other when our words fail us.
Every anarchist Ive ever met was a nutjob, myself included.
I've been watching these replies carefully. Not responding. Just watching to see how the anarchist movement would react.
Someone told my fiance to get fucked in the mouth. Why anyone would think a grown man wouldn't get incredibly pissed off about this is beyond me.
Some of the stupid responses I've seen are, "I didn't know their gender". What gender is it ok to tell to get fucked in the face, exactly? If my fiance were a man would that somehow make it ok to tell him to get fucked in the face?
Someone responded that Sunshinebear once put out a post where she called geese a bunch of dicks... As though THAT meant it was ok to tell my fiance to get fucked in the face.
Finally, someone has performed the mental gymnastics to say that my fiance getting told to get fucked in the face by someone she doesn't know has something to do with Kokesh.
Every single one of these comments are revolting, pathetic, and stupid. I am sad to know that there are anarchists who demonstrably believe that telling my fiance to get fucked in the face is somehow ok because... Anarchy and non aggression principle.
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I guess just don’t be a dick, maybe, in initial comments making character judgements about individuals you don’t know, and things might go better for you.
I answered you in kind. You get what you pay for. To call this sexual harassment is pretty funny, though.
You probably shouldn’t casually throw around serious allegations like this, but whatever. For the record, I didn’t know if you were a man or a woman, when I replied (it’s written right there in the comments you’ve screencapped), and it doesn’t matter.
“Get fucked in the face”/“Get fucked” doesn’t mean literally sexually. I thought most folks understood that.
Sorry your feelings are hurt, and truth be told, in real life I’m sure you’re a nice person. I’ve had a rough day. Maybe think twice before accusing people who genuinely care of being unenlightened and telling them no one cares what they have to say. I didn’t feel like putting up with it today.
Those who know me, know me. Those who don’t and want to talk about what a nasty character I am, well, can fuck off. Get it?
No further acid intended on my end, but I’m not gonna put up with that BS.
Cheers.
Cheers?! Kaka, WHY IN THE FUCK is my fiance bringing me an article about you telling her to FUCK HERSELF IN THE FACE?! Have you lost your mind?
Up until now you've been a respected opposition. But THIS? What kind of disgraceful, disgusting, low brow, slack jawed, bullshit is THIS?
I don't care what you two were discussing and frankly I'm too pissed to look, but do not EVER tell my fiance to do anything sexual. DO NOT talk about any of her orifices or about fucking you stupid pathetic little man.
What little respect I had for you is gone. Leave her be.
From now on you can talk to me. Not her!
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I don't think people "get it" about this. Patience is growing very thin regarding Adam Kokesh. He's trolling people and not being consistent. This is an important issue to individual liberty lovers like @kafkanarchy84. Before making a comment about this feud, it would be wise for people to research it well too.
Stop trying to make this a personal issue or to attack individuals. The message is what's really important. You know what I mean by the message? That's the "drop your ideology" bullshit Adam has declared. No, I will not drop my ideology. My ideology is individual liberty! If you're not for it, you're not my friend. Period.
Friends point out other friend's inconsistencies. They let their friends know when they are making a mistake. Friends do not demand that other people stop correcting them for their mistakes. They don't ask people to drop their core beliefs. They are consistent and ethical. Adam is not being consistent or ethical.
When you try to defend that then, don't be surprised when someone loses their patience with you. A lot is at stake here. The ideology we are being asked to drop is vital to the future of our species. It's a big deal in other words. When someone asks me to stop checking people for consistency or calling them out for inconsistency, it really pisses me off.
Just stop already or just admit that you're not a friend of individual liberty.
Didn’t know it was your wife, or whether male or female.
Tell her to not make false allegations about such serious shit.
@sunshinebear left a dick comment and I responded in kind. Please read the post that she wrote. I didn’t know who the hell she was. I have commented clarifying everything.
I did not tell anyone to “FUCK HERSELF IN THE FACE.”
“get fucked”/“get fucked in the face” while pretty fucking intense language, is not meant literally, sexually. This should be fucking obvious, but I guess not.
You guys both should probably calm down, and if you continue to make false allegations about me I will have to take action.
Calling that sexual harassment is something I'd think the #MeToo, progressive-left would stoop to. It's strong language, but there's a sea of difference between what was said and what is sexual harassment. Let us not take issue with specific words, but understand the general meaning and recognize figures of speech (especially when the phenotypical characteristics of either user are potentially unknown.)
Just my unsolicited two bits. Peace, y'all.
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Seriously, whilst being abusive and not a very nice thing to say, its certainly not male on female sexual abuse. He used no gender specific language and you calling it out as sexual abuse and then promoting this post up to the hilt as an accusation to simply make someone youve fallen out with is a bit pathetic.
Worse still, it belittles the true sexual abuse and inequality that goes on in the world every day.
Using words such as
In one of your posts smacks of hypocrisy. This is gender specific language.
Everyone falls out and sometimes oversteps the mark, but trumping up the charge to sexual abuse is wrong.
The pair of you need to stop washing your dirty laundry in public and sort out your issues with civility.
We can't always agree, but we can always agree to disagree.
I never said abuse, I said harrasment. It is in every way sexual harrasment what he said to me. So everyone who is saying other wise, well.. look it up. I'm not crying wolf, I'm calling out BS when I see it. I didn't mis speak, it is what it is. The End.