"Anarchists"

in #anarchy6 years ago (edited)

There is a massive disconnect among some of you claiming to be Individualists, Voluntaryists, Anarchists, Libertarians, Classical Liberals, etc. You need to be logically consistent, or your ideology is just another primitive tribe of children throwing a tantrum and your claim of the morally superior position is hypocritical at best.

If you practice what you preach, please upvote and resteem this post. If you don't, please go back to circle-jerking in your mom's basement with your buddies on 4chan.

Didn't you stop throwing tantrums when you were a toddler?
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So @didic shared a screenshot of this post created by @arevolution last night. This kind of post is far from uncommon, and if you think it's just the views of one person I suggest you either stop reading this or acknowledge that right there is the disconnect. @builderofcastles joined the conversation on @didic's post, and I have tagged all three here very deliberately.

The logically consistent position is to support your freedom to be a raging dickhole, but not necessarily your choice to do so. Which brings me to the main points:

1. Censorship
It's a slippery slope, banning speech or ideas we find repugnant. It stinks of the Thought Police from Orwell's "1984". I would rather have them out in the open, subject to critical analysis and even ridicule, because free speech means "they" have the freedom to say whatever they want and "we" have the freedom to call them out on it. There is also some chance - however increasingly marginal as we become more and more polarized - that we might engage in rational discourse. Who is the arbiter of what constitutes acceptable speech? We only seek such power for ourselves, never for others because ours is obviously the only correct worldview. I'm reminded of Martin Niemoller's famous poem condemning his own complacency as the Nazis rose to power.

You cannot ban words or thoughts. Attempting to do so has backfired so spectacularly every time it's been tried, I cannot believe anyone in this day and age still thinks it's a viable solution. How's that working out for North Korea or Venezuela or dozens of other countries run by repressive socialist regimes?

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2. "The New World Order"
If you think there's some shadowy organization sitting around dimly-lit smoke-filled rooms plotting world domination, I have some bad news for you: "They" achieved world domination over 100 years ago. You've been watching too many movies. Furthermore, if InfoWars is your source of information, not only is Alex Jones far from a credible source of information, you're being herded like cattle to soak it up as gospel truth without independent verification (the doctor's advice to get a second opinion is ... good advice), and you have the knowledge and experience of a child if you use his entertainment show to claim that you're an independent thinker, revolutionary, or actually believe in any of the political ideologies I'm addressing here. He's also a Donald Trump supporter, which makes sense because they both "suffer" from narcissistic personality disorder. Ya, real fucking revolutionary, bruh. He's selling you a product, and you're gobbling it up without even knowing what it is or what it might do to your porous little mind, and then convincing yourself that you're "woke". Please. Grow up.

You'd like to make this about some mysteriously nebulous cabal that may or may not have the power you assign it, outside of your infantile need to abrogate responsibility to some fictional movie villain for problems you're too chickenshit and lazy to get off your ass and contribute to solving.

Your views aren't validated by a mob drinking the same Kool-Aid you are
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3. "The LGBT Agenda"
The claim that there is a "Gay Agenda" or "Transgender Agenda" is not only delusional, it's pretty fucking hypocritical coming from someone who demands their individual liberties while denying others any agency based on some arbitrary group to which you alone presume to assign a shared ideology. I've covered my own thoughts on the perceptions and portrayals of transgender people here, and my views are unorthodox but grown from a lifetime of personal experience with the LGBT community.

Why are LGBT people such a sore point for you self-described Anarchists, Libertarians, etc.? Don't tell me it's just "SJW's" 'cause we both know that's bullshit. It's a fucking obsession. You would think people who claim to defend an individual's freedom to choose would support LGBT people's freedoms - independent of the debate over whether or not it's a choice - but instead they group everyone into their own conception of tribes so they can claim moral superiority and refuse to see their own glaring hypocrisy. If you demand self-entitled liberties you would deny to others, you are no better than those whose ideologies you claim to oppose. Being as provocative as you possibly can then claiming you're offended by someone else's mere existence ... well so fucking what if you're offended? Does liberty only apply as long as it doesn't interfere with your delicate sensibilities, snowflake?

LGBT people have existed in every culture since the dawn of civilization, such as it is. If you think they are part of some grand conspiracy to depopulate the planet, I can destroy that fantasy pretty easily: Many LGBT people have children, and many more wish they could. Remind me again who keeps putting kids up for adoption. Remind me again who is prevented by law in many places from adopting kids. If you hate and fear "the gaaaaaaays" (your Jerry Falwell is showing), blame the straights. They're the ones who keep having gay babies. If you think homosexuality is some evil plot to turn your kids gay, I will kiss this woman right in front of them!

It won't be long before humans can reproduce via stem cells (although I certainly don't claim to be an expert on the subject), so maybe it would be a more productive long-term solution to leave your contrived toxic masculinity back in the Bronze Age where it belongs, because it's obviously over-compensating for your fear of what your boyfriends might think if you came out of the closet.

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I will close with the following excerpt from last night's "conversation", because it's both exemplary and notable that none of these clowns had a clever unoriginal response to anything I said:

@builderofcastles:

I believe that an evil group is shoving LGBT in everyone's face to

  1. Get a reaction. To make a new bogeyman.
  2. To break down society via degeneracy.
  3. Trying to get society to push back against LGBTs and so they can be the first ones to be taken to FEMA camps.

Just like Hitler did with the Jews. Have you studied the propaganda campaign done by Hitler to make the Jews out as the most evil of evil. The ones responsible for all the problems in Germany?

There is a very close parallel with what Hitler did then, and what is happening now. And since I do not want to see my gay and lesbian friends hurt when this blowback comes, I attempt to point out these parallels.

@ancapbarbie:

  1. Are you fucking seriously going there? Daring to exist in public spaces is not "shoving LGBT in everyone's face". I've said a few informative things, to which of course you aren't responding. Nobody thus far has engaged in hate speech, but you are definitely delusional. (Edited for correct syntax)
  2. What reaction? What bogeyman? Transgender people have existed in every culture since the dawn of "civilization". If you represent society, I hope it breaks down sooner than later. Degeneracy is subjective. You sound like a Sunni Muslim with that shit.
  3. Umm ... wow. Just wow.

Hitler put yellow Stars of David on Jews and pink triangles on homosexuals. Just like you're advocating. Hitler got away with it because he convinced people that Jews and homosexuals were "degenerate" and reducing the birth rate and "purity" of Germany. Have you even read the Nazi Party Platform or Mein Kampf? Maybe don't invoke Hitler when it's gonna backfire so spectacularly.

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I like your arguments; you'll make a good lawyer someday.

I can't articulate how much I appreciate such high praise, because I'm actually about to pro se a potentially landmark civil rights case. And afterward I fully intend to get a JD. Thank you.

Or maybe during ... depends on how long it takes.

Edit: Edited out an offensive joke. I’m an idiot an apologize.

In all seriousness, I can’t speak for everyone but I support you 100%

Stand up for your beliefs.

I made sure to resteem this as well.

Cor Aut Mors.

Fuck it. I had such a long comment typed out. Decided best to just say I really enjoyed the post you are always able to form a well-structured argument (facts) in plain language which I appreciate. I hope @arevolution has got a nice big buttplug for when they take their head out of their ass.

I'm guessing his mommy is still changing his poopy diapers.

Al is fine with me as long as no one uses laws that forces me or anybody to do, say, think, certain things. Using the law (an opinion with a gun) would not be very anarchistic.

Agreed. You do you. I'll do me. I don't think any speech is hate speech, as we define it, though subjectively some speech is clearly hateful. Personally, even if it incites violence I don't care, but whoever comes to commit that violence better pack a lunch.

i always find it funny when people talk about shoving the trans community in everyones faces... reality is if it wasn't for all the straight assholes who can't admit their fear of what they don't understand we wouldn't even be having the debate anymore.
the choice is simple, let be and let live.

It's almost always young sexually-repressed white Christian males who feel persecuted by their inability to wave their dicks in everyone's faces without consequences.

At least among those claiming the political ideologies I'm addressing with this post.

So, on the subject of same sex anything, weird how, it turns out, there's over 1500 species in nature that exihibit Same Sex behavior. Including in some, mating for life in same sex relationships.

For some, it's inconceivable, that their god somehow produces gay people. AND I imagine, it simply blows (uhm...) their minds to hear that there are gay dolphins, lions, cats, penguins, in fact, almost all species with almost any level of intelligence and evolution have shown gay lifestyles and behaviors.

Go fucking figure. Thump that on your bible.

It always amazes me (not really) that they claim it's unnatural, but when I point out exactly what you're saying here, they say we aren't animals.

Except yes we are.

The hubris necessary to alter the word of "God" is not self-evident to them, of course.

It is funny how mirrors only work on some people...
... too many cannot see themselves.

@ancapbarbie this post was presented at the morning session of Pimp Your Post Thursday on the Steemit Ramble Discord. It was given honourable mention as part of the report on the session. Just stopping back to let you know that you can see your name in lights right here. (Just kidding about the lights :)

Wow thank you! <3

The short comentary over the first picture gave me life ;) very well written and I agree :)

Thank you! I'm not a writer, but someone needs to say it. Many of us would rather stomp our feet like children, throwing a tantrum because we can't have everything we want right this second. The adult, pragmatic thing to do is accept baby steps when we can take them, because small progress toward liberty is better than no progress toward liberty.

Muslims were the first to use the yellow star as an identifier for jews

He invoked Hitler.

Who did? Muslims invented the marking of Jew's and Christians for easy identification of those who they subjugated and had to pay the jizya to them

The guy involved with the conversation you're referencing ...

Ah OK. Just mentioned that fact in relation to this article of yours though. Hitler was by no means the first to use identifiers for jews

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