I want to invite @adsactly and @dedicatedguy to a Discussion about what they posted about Venezuela.

in #adsactly6 years ago

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I want to formalize a serious debate about what @adsactly and @dedicatedguy wrote about Venezuelan situation. As we know, the economical and political situation in Venezuela is not in a good moment. But then, i've found some falencies about what @dedicatedguy must not wrote about. So, at all risks asumed i have made a response about what i think.

    In the article, @dedicatedguy a Venezuelan inmigrant -as i could see- made an unreasonable speech about how the change on Venezuela's Constitution promoted by former president Hugo Chavez, Flag and Shield, perjured the citizens from this affected country. All that only i can say is those have no negative change. Instead, in the new constitution, we have more opportunities than we hadn't before. Before the Chavez age, we were just plebeians ruled by presidents who has no interest by the people. Today we have more participation on a democracy and more freedom of speech as -to be honest- we can do here what we cannot do in other countries. For example...

    Turn our flag upside down as protest


    In which country could be this legal? Nowere. Just for an example: In the US you gotta be on jail for the long time after turn the american flag upside down. Why? Because is the must anti-patriotic gesticle you could make as protest. Some important Venezuela's celebrities do so in protest against a unexistent regime, and that's the baddes show of love they could do to a country like mine

    Not recognizing on the patriotic symbols


    This means, not recognizing on the fact about the 8th star put on the Venezuelan flag by Hugo Chavez in 2006, was on honor to the Guayana Province, as Simon Bolivar decreed on November 20th, 1817 while he put the 8th star on the flag of that time. By telling on the Hugo Chavez decision was just a foolish whim is the most ignorant that someone must be, honestly...

    Unrecognizing the Constitution when all in it is not in favor of anyone


    Let´s be honest, people. The constitution is the most important law of a country. Nobody must violate it at any way. Even if that was changed it must be respected for everything, even President included. But saying that someone is violating the constitution whitout consulting first if that person is doing so is the most idiotness we can do. I say so because in 2017, Maduro has convocated to a National Constituent Assembly by consulting the constitution -from articles 346 to 349-. That is something that the elite considered a violation of a law. However, they were free to convocate to a illegal plesbicit which not supported by the National Electoral Council, which no one knew what was it about, just tree times I DO whitout letting the people know the questions asked to the electors.


    Tell me what kind of freedom are violated here in Venezuela because everyone is free to choose. So, @adsactly and @dedicatedguy, you are forced to expose and contradict my reasons of which according to you I am wrong in everything I said. And i want all readers take conclussions and make juicy the debate right here


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    Very interesting - but if everyone is free, why is everyone starving? Why are girls I know that live there afraid to walk by themselves in the street?

    Doesn’t sound very free?

    I could say the reason about people starving is due hiperinflation. A minimal salary here is equal to US$ 1.00. It's really affecting us and some people decided to leave this country. By the end of the past decade, the former president Hugo Chavez started prices regulation due high prices promoted by food producers. This was translated in a shortage from stores and market and restricted quantities, , which also led to an escalation of contraband to the border with Colombia of many basic products (powdered milk, diapers, higiene products, corn flour, rice, etc). Those of many products could be seen on black market at higher prices which the people had been forced to pay. The foreign currency has the same situation, since 2003, Venezuela has passed to a control of the currency which was stronger since 2008 and then it worsened in 2016 when natural persons stopped receiving foreign currency from the government. There was a lot of corruption on the part of briefcase companies who put the currencies granted by the government on the black market; specifically in Cúcuta, Colombia. Dollar prices is calculated at price of Colombian peso which then is priced in relation to Venezuelan Bólivar. In Colombia there is a law that allows its citizens to sell their local currency at a different price established in official exchange houses. So that explains a little about our situation.

    In other hand, is well known that delinquency in Caracas -the most dangerous on Venezuela-is the hardest part since decades. The several corruption on public and private institutions has contributed to increase levels on delinquency at the point of being unholdable even for the security forces. No matter how much the fight against crime, it will increase because people and government can't do anything...

    I'm not denying the situation in this country, i can assume it and expose it to the world freely...

    There was a lot of corruption on the part of briefcase companies

    Do you think the government officials didn't participate in this horrible mafia?

    In Colombia there is a law that allows its citizens to sell their local currency at a different price established in official exchange houses

    Of course, like any normal country except the banana republic of Venezuela (thanks to the chavistas)

    it will increase because people and government can't do anything

    Wrong, of course the government can do something about it, they are just unwilling to do so, they are more focused on stealing the oil money and looting every other resource they can find.

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    I am going to take exception to something you said. In the US it is fully legal and protected free speech to desecrate and even burn the US flag. You won't go to jail for even one minute for doing so.

    You might, depending on the circumstance, go to the hospital with wounds from a beating. A lot of people take that particular symbol very seriously. They would gladly take the jail term for protecting that flag.

    HE is part of a regime's iniciative for crypto propaganda to endorse that scam coin they made...

    Just they were not very succesful in steemit, but the hardcore ones like this one remain, they keep seeding seeding until one day you get used to their bullshit and start beleiving it...

    They aim for the uninformed to create opinion matrixes... it is all from the Red Book.

    Hello @maikelblogo sorry for not answering this 10 months ago but I just discovered this post from a google search.

    I think you wrote some things that aren't true. For example

    In the US you gotta be on jail for the long time after turn the american flag upside down

    Can you share some examples of this happening? In every free country people can do stuff like that.

    In Venezuela there is not freedom of expression, that's why journalist are often kidnapped and robbed by government officials, like Jorge Ramos https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-jorge-ramos-univision-captive-venezuela-20190225-story.html and other local journalists that have been abused by the current totalitarian government.

    Tell me what kind of freedom are violated here in Venezuela

    Freedom of expression is violated, there is no free press, nor free economy.

    The current regime is a criminal organization and it seems the only way to remove it from power is by using international allies and their military power.

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