Round #2, Because I'm lazy... countering highest SP bot with highest Max Age, including shitposts, no resteeming though

in #abuse7 years ago (edited)

I'll start with the highest SP with high Max Age bots.

Extra bonus for the community! I'll actually flag some shitposts along with it.

So only @pushup and @boomerang for today then I go back to napping.

@boomerang, 350.000 SP sell votes on 6th day

@pushup, 361.000 SP Sells votes on 6th day

@Yabapmatt, How about max age slider like you did with Vote Value?

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Have you ever considered that your unilateral decision to cut the age to 3.5 or 2.5 is insufficient and ultimately just a temporary measure to stop the problem you are trying to solve? I think a different approach could be far more effective.

The bots have a vested interest in not promoting shitposts as well. That is why many of them lowered the age on their own accord without any prompting by you. I think people underestimate the amount of crap on steemit. I'm not even sure a week would allow enough time for a group like steemcleaners to truly sift through all the bs.

I have an idea for a solution but I'm not sure you'd be interested in hearing it. I'll post it in a reply to this message. Regardless of whether or not my idea is any good, I think it would be more beneficial to consider less destructive courses of action as a community.

I belive that crowd sourcing might be able to provide a solution to this problem. What if there was a pool made up of steemians that were always available to quality check posts being submitted to voting bots? This pool could be set up on a per bot basis, or could be created as a stand alone service provided by a group such as Steem Cleaners. People would sign up to be a part of the pool on a paid basis, and prospective posts would be randomly assigned to them as they are submitted to the bots. It doesn't take that long to do a quick assessment on whether or not something is a shit post. They wouldn't be doing a full quality assessment. As the checkers verify the post, they will comment on it that it was checked by QC Inspector number 12 (or their username). The bots would see that and know the post was good to go. Pool members have an incentive to not blindly blindly approve because they will either get less work, or even be penalized. Another option is a rating system for checkers. Also, by putting their name on it, they take personal ownership of the assessment.

Funding would come from benefactors such as yourself as well as the bots themselves. They have a vested interest in keeping it going.

By allowing any Steemian to sign up, it enables parallel processing via human power, leveraging the most powerful computer on the planet, the human brain.

I'm not saying this idea is foolproof. There are major hurdles to overcome such as:

  • How do we get people to sign up to be part of the pool?

  • By what criteria do we rate QC analysts?

  • How do we randomly assign posts

  • How do we deal with less common languages

  • How do we determine if a QC analyst is available

  • What standards do we set for review time

  • Many more questions that would come up as we implement

As I may have said before, this is only one possible solution. What other solutions could come from this community of pioneers? You have brought visibility to the issue, now it's time to start focusing on solutions.

I belive that crowd sourcing might be able to provide a solution to this problem.

Isn't that basically the entire point of Steemit already? Crowdsourcing quality?

I don't know if I would call it the entire point, but yes it is for certain aspects. This effort, however, would be more centralized and organized, which are tenants to which the Steemit platform in general was opposed.

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My post have less than 1 day .
https://steemit.com/resteem/@dumitriu/free-first-10-user-last-post-resteem-76-to-1200-stemmians-please-be-original-if-not-i-will-not-resteem-your-post
I promote one service and I do not have any steemians unhappy of my services.
The true is this shit want to make chaos here in stemit.com with 2 mil $ .Also he promote his post with bot with 100sbd 50 sbd 100 steem and we do not have right with our money to promote our services?
look here how much spend to promote his shit https://steemit.com/@checkthisout/transfers

Yes, I understand. My conversation is different, but your concerns are valid.

Thank you for read my comment.The bots upvote me because I want to help comunity.I DO THIS MORE THAN 3 MOUNTH FOR STEEMIT .SHAME ON @grumpycat .

@grumpycat is just a big time scammer. Looting Steemit for thousands of dollars per week and pushing arounf his large sp like a mini tyrant with a small penis. HE uses the bots he claims to have issues with and runs them on the numerous accounts he controls.

This whole 3.5 days business is just a front for him to appear to be doing anything at all. Gimp-cat is a stupid loser that can’t spell. He is vindictive and juvenille and probably some spotty kid in his whore mom’s basement that got lucky in a crypto long-shot.

Don’t worry, his days are numbered. As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, the sun is going to set on that stupid meme for good.

@grumpycat is a wreckless parasite that is killing off his own host and he is too selfish and greedy to see beyond those cum soaked whiskers.

Have a nice day! @thedamus

I'll start with the highest SP with high Max Age.

Can you explain what exactly you mean by this? Where do we go from here? This post only seems to outline the game plan for the day.

I'm glad to see you're open to changing your approach as you go.

I think is a people from other social media platform and his goal in to crash steemit with some money.

How can one person just be allowed to create an account put lots of money into it out of nowhere with no authorship and then just start trying to make their own rules and force smaller accounts to follow or face losing all the SBD the earned that is not cool in my mind its like a Monarchy.

That's how Steem operates. Unfortunately, you may no think its cool, but it is what it is. Those with the biggest wallets can call the shots. There is no central authority to complain to, no company to stop it, no government, no police. . Its actually a pretty good example of how a real world community would operate without laws other than those created by the people with the biggest firepower. Survival of the fittest.

exactly... hypocrisy...

Sorry, try again. BUYING your votes is not earning them. Had you spent 3 to 5 SBD on your vote, you would not have received a down-vote. @grumpycat is keeping vote buyers from looking like they EARNED their reps and payouts by buying their votes.

I have some important questions for Grumpy:

  1. Does Grumpy like cat-nip?
  2. Does Grumpy prefer Friskies or tuna?
  3. Is it possible to make Grumpy smile?

  1. Put him upside down. Great smile.

I think you are some kind of nazi system.Shame on you.I invest 25 SBD to promote my free service.My all post return was 22 or 23 (SBD +STEEM POWER) so profit -3 SBD and my post was less than 1 day old and you kill my post.
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You can take a look to https://steemit.com/@checkthisout/transfers and you can see the maximum abuse in using bot but this account work for you @grumpycat to promote his posts.

"""Warning to vote buyer/sellers! - Introducing GrumpyCompliance, mandatory in 14 days. (No more post-promotion allowed past 3.5 days)"""
My post have less than 1 day . His post is a shit post because is a nazi, act like an extremist.

I don't know about that days wrongly just send Pls ignore @grumpycat as a first time mistake I will never repeat in future. Thank you @grumpycat.

I will like to join your discord gruop

That is a very vice decision.

You are giving a fair fight, opposing the people who are trying to milk the system .

Consider my words, the difference between a hero and a bully is "code of ethics."

The people sending their fresh posts to upvote that are flagged by you are not collateral damages of your fight, they are real humans.

I don't use bots frequently, but I am analysing them.
I want people to have the freedom to choose whichever bot they want unless they do not try to abuse the system.

Start flaging the posts that are over 6 days.

Be a hero and let us follow you...
Be a bully and you will find resistance...

FD.

thank you for this comment, i got a flag from gruppy as thats so sad i can lie people really have the right to do some certain things, its a decentralized platform and because some other people have higher sp they act as god and centralized on the platform, but i had to add this, its also good for the platform as they are rules on the bidvote to use, i did not know about all this things you know

He downvote my post who have less a day, was new.Was not for profit was to promote my free service.

i understand clear, i too did that yesterday in order to promote the SONG i made for STEEMIT AFILITATED with untalented-adjustments tags i wanted it to be visible, just want the song to be seen and nothing like gain, i hate buying votes but since its the only way to get many steemians get interested to view it that was why i did that.

My profit was -3 SBD.The rule of this @grumpycat are not.Is here to kill post random.
This is true.With this kind of people steemit.com will die soon.

I legitimately used @boomerang 30 minutes after posting. You cost $20 on my post. I want it back!

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