Dear SportsTalkSocial Members
I would like to discuss and present to you a problem which I can see affecting the growth of our community.
Firstly, it is not my wish to be someone who wishes to manage / control how our community acts, nor do I wish to produce this content over writing sports related articles.
However, for our community to grow and have solid roots from the start, we need to discuss and potentially take action when we see misconduct in our ranks.
Pending Reward Management
On sportstalksocial.com, we are each given one full and 'free' downvote each day. This means that we can reduce the pending rewards of a piece of content without reducing our 'SPORTS' voting power.
Abuse, as defined by clicking the downvote icon on the website is defined as:
It is down to the individual to decide if what they see falls into any of the above categories - your vote, either up or down, is solely your choice.
With that said, I would like to give you a short list of links which in my opinion can be classified as falling into at least one of the points in the image above:
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Each of the links point to a short comment, 'hi', 'hello', etc, which have pending rewards I feel are too high. Personally, I think that the above is the equivalent of doing something like this:
If you have time today, would you take a look at some of these links and if you feel that these potential rewards are undeserved, use your free downvote to remove some of the pending reward?
On some links, you will see a comment from myself which provides a reason behind the downvote:
Sadly, the list above is only the tip of the iceberg and I am hoping that a moderator account will be used to find and help remove rewards with are undeserved.
Questions
Do you feel that a list of posts/comments which can no longer be rewarded via an upvote (older than 4 days), but can have the pending reward reduced should be released each day so that community members can easily check for potential abuse?
Do you feel that a moderator account should be used to reduce the type of potential rewards in the links above?
What else should moderators or communities members look for with regards to abuse?
Finally
It is possible for the sportstalksocial management to ban a user completely from the site. I would like to think that a decision to do this would not be taken lightly, but I wish to make members aware that it is possible.
Thank you for your time, enjoy watching one of the major events taking place today!
Asher
Sorry I was a bit late to the party. Just dropped a full downvote on them all.
If you, as an old and very trusted Steemie wanted to set up a Sportscleaners account, I would happily delegate 10 or 20K to it. If we could get maybe 10 plus nice people here to do the same, you could have a 200K Pot to use for downvoting.
These farming circles are only going to become a bigger and bigger problem for the next few weeks while the token numbers settle down a bit.
Also a coincidence some of these posts are also in Turkish and tagged TR as was the two accounts I pulled yesterday?
No worries, there are a lot more coming for sure.
Probably not a coincidence with the TR. :/
I think there is a mod account waiting to break into action and it could well be letting the community figure out what's cool or not first.
Downvoted all of them and the one I added. Total bullshit and I don't care about my VP anymore.
lol my steem vp is down to 37% from voting on sports and leo tribes. now im starting to prop it up by buying more steem hahaha
Lol. You are lucky to be able to do that. I don't care anymore as a few days of a few good downvotes and hopefully it will stop. I am glad you are here as this place needs a bit of help.
michealb.sports required?!
Thanks for helping out here :)
I joined you
Thanks @flipstar. I am hoping by the end of today it will be sorted.
Others have joined in, but for me the display on the payout for that comment is incorrect?
I don't think so as another one slipped through the cracks a day ago.
I don't think so as
Another one slipped through the
Cracks a day ago.
- cryptoandcoffee
I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
I know your intention is good but it seems like the solution we're thinking can be like a two-edge sword. It has good and bad effect to the community as a whole. Do we really think that the platform can attract a lot of investors if they know that their potential profit can be downvoted? In some worst cases, others are just tripping those with smaller staked amounts. I totally agree that we need to keep the community clean and avoid abuse as much as possible but we should also be careful what we wish for. I'm hoping that downvote feature won't be used as form of bullying in the future. It would a waste if that happens.
It certainly no intention of mine to bully anyone, and from what I've seen in the #sportstalk tag there has been none of that so far.
I would hope that more investors would arrive if they could see that blatant abuse was not tolerated and thus their 'profit' by curating and creating solid content would be higher.
Good call,
from their reputation you can tell they are not here to help.
We should watch closely for these invadors.
Keep on postin
Yes the reputation is a good indication, and the 21 upvotes on each of them too.
Community on the lookout :)
went and downvoted the first 3.
Nice :) I have brought the hammer out on 13 so far, but it's a hopeless task without more involved.
Part of the issue is time to find and locate potential abuse but I see Patrick has linked a spreadsheet in this post
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lSxM3VK_VvhdfDRLUbP_PTueOE7LxHhy6F4edQN_nsk/edit#gid=1904657324
will have a look. you said post payout after 4 days. just realized the top 3 where 5 days?
Post pays out after 7 but can no longer earn upvotes after 4, giving 3 full days to manage the potential reward with a downvote.
99% sure :)
https://www.sportstalksocial.com/dlike/@pele23/pubg7a
A perfect example.
I have left a comment. As above, it is down to community members to decide if this falls into the category of abuse.
I will check on the content later today.
I still think the sportstalk team has to orgatize a control group, delegate a certain amount of toekn for the downvote, create an official server to give the possibility of defense, create a team similar to @jaguar-force, I don't like to destroy , I prefer to build but if needed I am willing to help the platform.
I believe this will come soon enough, and think that everyone would prefer to build rather than go seeking undeserving content.
Agreed in all aspects - joining in downvoting too.
Great :) I'm glad that others agree this isn't the right way to go about things.
I think the 50-50 helps for such cases but we will never totally get rid of all these abusers in total but as long as the community / tribe is relatively small we should do all we can!
While the community is small it's easier to manage, but the hope is that as it grows there is still an eye on abuse.
Resteemed of course too!
Cheers!
Yep - agreed again. A free downvote is cool as well! I hope there are not adventourous investor whales coming here, push millions and then curate like asses - that could eb dangerous
Yeah!
Sadly I cant buy the book and try to protect, but together as a group it's possible :)
Just tagged you in a comment - I love avid posters but some simply post too much - I added a fair "warning" incl. offer to help by you and myself :-).
Yeah Gina told me about it and I left a note. 24 posts he's put out today - that is a lot!
The community is small enough to be able to find the good content and I think if they posted one decent piece a day it would earn more than banging out tens of shorties.
Absolutely agree - hence not sure the guys have a similar thinking on it
I was genuinely about to write a very similar post but thought I better check the trending/hot sections to see if someone had already done it.
I have been noticing a few accounts spamming comments already with things like "Hello!", "Yep", "Hi" and it's really annoying.
We need to act as a community moderation team in this regard and all do our bit to censor/devalue these posts.
Exactly that. A team effort and with a little help from information finders I think we have a chance to set the precedent early.
Will join downvoting - question, a free downvote here is still reducing the VP on Steem right?
If you are using the same account yes. I have moved my SPORTS to this account. It is now possible to delegate SPORTS to another account if you are already powered up.
ok, too many accounts to manage, downvoted two of them, will do some more later with another account. Thanks for the heads-up
Thanks for helping out :)
Welcome - is there any list of abusers I can join daily to downvote? @abh12345.sports
@sportsmod
They are downvoting with a lot of VP at present, but more eyes would likely be a help.
Cheers mate - I will follow them and see what I can do with my limitted power there
my dearest pleasure!