Hardfork 21 and Next Steps.
The Code has been dropped for HF21
https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemitblog/steemit-update-hf21-testnet-sps-eip-rewards-api-smts
If you haven't been here for a hardfork or you were still new for the last one... the way it works is that once the code is released it is up to the top 20 witnesses mostly decide what to do with it.
They should test it, consider the impacts, prepare the community and make their views on the changes clear.
My opinion is it is too much for one HardFork and doesn't solve the root problems which are visibility and lack of any marketing, so I am not a huge fan. Each change has it's own risks and potential rewards so while I can certainly understand being for or against any of the changes, justifying doing them all at once is a hard pill for me to swallow. No one knows how it will turn out and I hope a lot of thought is put into how to support the community through any changes that are made.
Meanwhile, we still have PALNET which also has several of these features.
The announcement post is missing a lot of information. What percentages were used, where they decided to get the funding for SPS, what date they plan to drop, etc. stay tuned for more information.
So, if you have any questions or concerns let your witnesses know. As of today here is a list of those who will be making the decision.
01 yabapmatt
02 curie
03 blocktrades
04 gtg
05 roelandp
06 someguy123
07 good-karma
08 themarkymark
09 therealwolf
10 aggroed
11 cervantes
12 thecryptodrive
13 ocd-witness
14 timcliff
15 anyx
16 ausbitbank
17 smooth.witness
18 followbtcnews
19 lukestokes.mhth
20 clayop
This list of the top 20 is current as of this post, but they often juggle around some as the debates about the HF and what is included carry on.
On the day of the HF the way it works is once 17 of the top witnesses begin to run the new code it is considered an accepted HF.
There is no question this will be a major hardfork with major impacts to Steem. It is also contentious and controversial. I expect there will be some very interesting debates.
Hardfork or not, steem on!
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I've been railing against the 50/50 split since yesterday. I'm disappointed at the lack of coordination, transparency and unscientific nature of the whole thing. It's far too disjointed a process and I am not convinced the Top 20 witnesses are fit to sign off on such massive changes to the system.
lol
Indeed. LOL.
They haven't signed off yet.
Just keep asking questions, but let's try to help calm it down and discuss it.
I've raised many questions as to the methods by which they came to their conclusions and the answers were quite insufficient. I think it's time we got agitated and made witness changes.
How much testing has been done for all levels of steem users?
We all remember how much it impacted and drove away many small minnows and redfish, when HF20 Dropped.
in some ways, HF20 was the beginning of quite a downward spiral for Steemit
Yeah, I am highly concerned. No one cares. :) Hang on and stock up on Drama.
You should have @ each one, that way people could get to them easily to voice their disagreements with the HF.
This is a nightmare... I honestly now think Steemit is purposely hiding how bad the HF will be. Their blog post said nothing at all about what the actual changes will be and how it will affect authors and users.
I know there are two witnesses who were opposed to the HF, though they would go along with it since they would cease to be witnesses if they didn't adopt the HF software. If two more join with them, the HF will fail. We just need two more top 20 witnesses to step up and refuse to accept this disaster of a HF, just TWO MORE! We need to figure out who might be on the fence and lobby them directly to consider siding against HF21, those two who might still undecided could prevent this from happening if they join the two opposed.
Just 4 witnesses can stop this, and I know two would be willing to, so to those other undecided witnesses, please reconsider. You have the power to stop this nonsense from taking place, and hold the power to save Steem from eating itself. I urge you to reject HF21, and instead demand a smaller, more sensible approach to hardforking Steem.
#StopHF21 #MakeSteemGreatAgain
Yeah, because the reward structure is so great, because empowering people to police the network without them sacrificing their voting mana is "so bad", because putting a curve in to dissuade stake splitting is terrible, and giving the audience, the content consumer's reason to power up or invest by making curation worth something and actually compete with vote selling and self voting is terrrrrrorrrible.
We must stop this insanity, just 2 more witnesses who will say "this is good enough what we have now, who cares that more than 70% of the votes are bought and paid for, and who cares that no reasonable person would power up, invest, or waste their time trying to wade through the 'promoted' content, we can't cut author rewards because 75% out of less than 30% and constantly dwindling is good enough".
Whack ass, idiot.
Yeah, steemit is hiding the changes because they are retards, stupid, evil or a combination. And guess what, these changes are so hidden that they've been openly discussed for more than a year, some, like the 50/50 split, for more than two years, and they literally posted the Code for all, and the other posts explained the changes thoroughly, but "they are purposely hiding how bad it will be on a completely transparent and open source platform". Makes sense.
(and you're not a monumental fag)
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You are a sad strange little man... I’d downvote you but it wouldn’t mean much with my relatively low SP, so instead I’ll say this...
@whatsup, please downvote, preferably at 100% power, this sad, strange little man so he will actually feel punished for saying something stupid.
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O no, you have absolutely nothing to say than to beg others to share your opinion of me themselves, because.
Fuck off you idiot. I'd rather go toe to toe with anyone that outright slanders the development than too join into the buffoonery, and I'd sooner eat shit and die than to give a fuck at all about what a certifiable idiot (make Steem Great by keeping it in this shit state) thinks about me.
Whack ass clown.
!dramatoken
:D
Sad, sad, strange little man...
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Sweetest sound to my ear is your low opinion of me, confirmation that I'm doing awesome by extension of what an imbecile you are.
So strange that I called you a faggot for your insipid nonsense, lol. It probably befuddled the fuck out of your two brain cells.
You have
DRAMA!To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.Only an idiot thinks it strange to not extend zero respect to them after they outright shits on the development of the platform they are using to voice that shit and/or exposing their idiotic nonsense of "make murica great again" (very clever and original you imbecile) by rallying without rhyme or reason against changes that have been thoroughly considered for years by hundreds of people, some of who have put insane amounts of wealth behind the platform by investing, and others who have put blood, sweat and tears into it, and enormous ammounts of time to boot.
Whack ass faggot.
Fag, as in good for burning and sweeping the shit covered street, but nothing else.
Anyone who is watching knows that they have not be carefully thought out for years by most of the witnesses. Just try asking a few questions.
I think it is reasonable to be for or against them. Personally, I just think it is too much in one fork even though I do think the changes might be good.
Let's see how things look on the testnet tomorrow, I think the main reason we don't want too many hardforks too often is due to exchanges having to update and people not being able to transfer to and from during the time.
If there is one thing I would be careful with it would be the curve so going to test it and think of ways it will be attempted to be abused or how it can be used for the greater good with things such as @ocdb for instance. The other two changes, 50/50 and downvote pool I am absolutely for and is something we have needed for a long time already. I do believe it is worth the risk compared to the content discovery and consequences of abusing bid bots and votetrading and haeining that have plagued us in forever, the sooner the better probably.
About your point in the post that what we need the most is marketing, I'm hopeful the SPS will be able to aid with that as well. As you might now I am not one to not want authors, especially deserving ones to earn less rewards but I believe that over time an with the effects of these changes they will be earning more in the end, especially in $ amount, hopefully.
Good advice
What are you talking about, these things have been discussed and carefully considered for years. It's not reasonable at all to paint their intentions as malicious or to basically call them retarded by claiming that they are trying to hide what anyone, with or without an account can easily find. If someone has reasonable concerns I'm all ears, but so far the nonsense has been monumentally unreasonable, inconsiderate and the retards that spew this shit seemingly either shit on the development or on people in general by either outright calling them idiots, stupid, or evil, or by insinuating nothing less than that. In my book, that is only reason for anyone to consider them as such, not only because they haven't reasoned shit for those despicable opinions but simply because they are despicable opinions and I'm not in the business of changing anyone's despicable opinions. If they don't hold those opinions as intimately as they can and share them freely, then I have zero issues of telling them what I think.
Sad, strange little man...
Oh also, this little "bundle of sticks" is proudly supporting Donald Tump for President in 2020! He will be re-elected for another 4 years, and he will Keep Making America Great! ;)
You thinking that I care or that it rubs me the wrong way at all is hilarious. Almost as funny as your incredibly intelligent proposal of not doing anything to make Steem Great, what a clown like you choose to vote for though, that's what you want to talk about? Is it because do nothing to make Steem Great needs nothing else, it's the total package, right nonfag?
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do you think that was maybe a little harsh?
Not even mild. Do you think that shit smearing the development like he has deserves anything less?
wow, chill baah. That's a bit much.
What, I can't call him a fag? Especially when he is acting like a flaming faggot? Fuck that, and fuck you too if you think so.
#makesteemgreatagainbykeepingitthesame
#smartandsmarter
#stop-the-nonsense
#steemit-are-idiots-or-evil-or-both
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Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I disagree, but...
You are like foaming at the mouth, it isn't helping.
What's wrong with mocking the idiot for "MSGA"? He literary had nothing reasonable, sensible or thoughtful to add and instead he spewed some of the dumbest shit that I've seen regarding the hf, let's keep everything the same to make Steem Great, Again. The fuck, and he has no problem with leveling inflammatory shit about the intentions of others.
#smartandsmarter
I'm not here to "help", I'm here to light fires with a fag, I'm darn great at it and I don't mind the smell of burning shit, I'll be your huckleberry you faggot.
I am here for a bit over two years and always before and after a hardfork there been rivers of posts and comments flowing around about it... some pro some against the impacts of that particular hardfork will do!
I think we all should wait and see before we are jumping to a conclusion; already @steemitblog post generated 48 comments and this is just the begging... i think we are rushing we the conclusions and looks like is in our human nature of Steemians to love drama and create it.
Time will tell...
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Judging from the comments in steemitblog's update...we are about to experience a catastrophe(?)
haha...yep
I'm just gonna lean back and watch the place burn for a few days.
With any luck it doesn't take too long until we find a new and reasonable equilibrium.
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That's a pretty good plan. Not sure when the actual codedrop will be, but when it comes we can re-evaluate . By We I mean every user, witness and stakeholder and decide if it was good or bad and react accordingly.
Can it be any worse than HF20?
Then again, it's SteemIt. Just when you think they have hit rock bottom, they prove you wrong by making things even worse (weary lol)
EDIT:
I just read the post you linked to, and even though I'm not a newcomer, I truly don't understand a word they are saying... if they're saying anything anyways. Aren't those informational posts meant to explain some things to the common users??
Har Har Har, yeah hf 20 was so bad, who wouldn't have known that a complete restructuring from the bottom up of the bandwidth system had one bug that only appeared in the live version. Har Har Har, yeah stinc is the worst. Har Har.
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I can algebra too:
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Find x, where d is crapping on others capacities and intentions.
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"When your communication causes more questions than answers was it communication at all?" :)
All I can say is that I think their motives are good, their understanding of the community and the impact he beyond low.
Spot on 👍
I completely agree with the last part, and maybe their motives are good, but the question is: from which perspective...
Love reading and talking about hardforkes :D
I see that you also think that marketing is a huge issue that Steemit has.