Steemit Anarcho Capitalism: Killing The Ignorant - Very Short, Very Readable - 1 min #steemit - #anarchism

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These glorified crack peddlers are deliberately trying to manipulate you into buying into this dream of government free islands with no regulation.

Regardless of what these swindlers would have you believe, 2008 was the result of lax financial regulation.

2008 would happen every single day, with endless "Sorry for your loss" under an anarchic system, until the system becomes more robust.

The system will become robust over time naturally,  Yay!

No.

You are not the system, you are an individual.

And when your pension funds get raided because the system is insecure, "Sorry for your loss", will not put food in your mouth.

And when your home gets raided by thieves, and you get brutally beaten up, you won't be thinking "This'll make home security more robust".

The only individuals benefiting from Anarcho Capitalism are those with enormous hoardings of resources (wealth, weapons, armies, key infrastructure), who can pretty much kill all dissent.

As easy as it is for a whale to flag-kill someone on Steemit, is as easy as it would be under such a system for a whale to kill someone.


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Hey Positive! Nice to meet you.

However, I am saddened by your depiction of anarcho-capitalists. Methinks you haven't been around a lot of them. Your sweeping generalization about anarcho-capitalists wanting to kill all dissent and horde resources is woefully inaccurate.

If you believe it is accurate, can you point out a decent number of self-proclaimed anarcho-capitalists who have suggested that or made that their clear intention?

I am curious, so this should be a good chance at some reality testing for both of us.

I've been involved in crypto since '11. You're right, they all sound nice.

I've witnessed these same "nice" people pump coins under false pretenses, encourage people to dump their pensions in the coin, then hard dump the coins.

Same thing has happened for 4 years.

I don't trust them because unrestrained rationality is dangerous.

Being a puppet in someone else's game isn't quite rational either. Now while I don't fully agree with "anarcho-capitalism" because I think there is still a long way to go before that could even be realistically happen and even if it did how would we make it work exactly... BUT with that being said the way things are today with big government ripping apart every part of our lives isn't working either. For me personally I am much more trusting of people that think human interactions should be voluntary and PEACEFUL, and people that believe you should do one to others as you would want done to yourself rather than to trust someone that believes people should be put in cages for life for non violent "crimes", or that 50% of my hard earned money should be stolen from me and given to psychopaths to do what they want with.

I really hope you have a chance to read the book. Elected politicians have power only in fiction in democratic systems, their influence is constrained by the fact they need popular vote to retain office. There is literally not much they can do.

I am genuinely frightened by the idea of a human being claiming the right to 'govern' me and decide what I may or may not do out of context of my own agreement (Like how I agree to terms and conditions when I buy a company's product). Whether this claim is disguised by the concept of 'popular vote' or some other concept makes no difference. It does not change the fundamental fact of the claim itself, and what the claim implies - ie that I am not sovereign, and my physical body (and by extension it's products) are owned by another. The manner in which decisions are made in regards to this ownership is once again quite irrelevant to the fact of this ownership. (Note that I have not provided here an argument for why owning human beings is immoral, I assume the reader already maintains a belief that ownership of human beings is in some capacity immoral) - All that said good job catching my attention with this article positive.

I trust democratic government more than anarcho capitalism for one simple reason.
Those in power are empowered by the people.

Even if they get in power through manipulation, reliance on popular vote is a vulnerability from their perspective.

It means they must make decisions that assuage the masses to stay in power. Professor Bruno de Mesquita wrote an excellent short book on this topic.

I think that statement may have been true at some point in time I don't think it is anymore. There is a good quote by Franklin Roosevelt saying "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." and I think that statement today is more true than ever. I think it's quite a stretch to think that our top "elected" officials are elected by popular vote in my opinion. But I will gladly read that book! Thank you for the recommendation!

As insane as the current system is, pretty much any of the anarchist ideologies would be a step in a favorable direction

Could you explain your reasoning?

Part of the bedrock of anarchism is the aspect of voluntaryism, that we shouldn't have to be coerced or forced at the end of a gun to be a part of the system. We don't currently have anything close to voluntaryism so my reasoning is that almost all of the anarchist ideologies would bring the State and its' monopoly on the initiation of force to an end. I personally would prefer to live in a decentralized, insurance based voluntaryist society, but what I would prefer and what I would accept are two different things, as evidenced by my participation, albeit hesitant, in the current system.

There are certainly other issues that would fill the vacuum that the end of the state would leave. Anarchism isn't utopia, but it's an honest shot at an honest life.

My goal is to live a comfortable life, so exchanging it by definition goes against my goals.

haha yes! Quick devils advocate though: what if the exchange is your comfort for a fixed amount of time, after which you'd be well off and comfortable for the rest of your days? Well you're on Steemit, so that's prolly gonna happen anyway with the content you put out ;) And my goal is to accept that no human has legitimate power over another human who just wants to do their thing non violently.

I agree with than in principle, in practice I feel it'd make my life harder for no reason, and won't exchange comfort for an ideal.

how Would it make your life harder for no reason? exchanging comforts for ideals is how we level up in our dreams and goals.

If I could expect to be sufficiently more comfortable for the rest of my days beyond a point, then I guess I would be willing to exchange comfort up to that point.

well keep on posting, brave OP, you're well on your way ;)

the funny thing that the guy still holding the can in his hand lol

People will still be holding STEEM Power.

This post tore me up inside. On one hand I love anarchic approaches to all things Government, on the other hand I hate Capitalist hoarding and inequality of wealth. I think that a socialist medium is what's needed here.

Imagine if Karl Marx had a blockchain...

The inequality of wealth by itself is not the problem. Not everyone can have the same income, or even needs to for a society to flourish. As long as even the "poorest" are rich enough to have more than they need, everything is okay.

The "hoarding" is a rational reaction to the system's incentives (interest on interest / inflation).

I don't see capitalism (in the sense of free markets, or as Adam Smith proposed it) as the problem so much. And I am all for anarchy. I am not an anarcho-capitalist, though.

From what I have learned, it is all about who issues the money/currency, and how and what kind of currency. Then all authoritarian measures - like artificial redsistribution by the means of unreasonable tax laws - need not be taken.

Imagine if Karl Marx had a blockchain...

He would have skipped communism and socialism and called it the end of history :)

Again, lets replace the system entirely with the Blockchain as our overload and live happily ever after.

I have started this series and I am looking forward to how this discussion will develop.

How must that blockchain be designed? That is the question.

now govts are interested in blockchain to track welfare spending in England and the US is going to be right behind them

For our benefit, I'm sure. /s

Lets replace them entirely with the Blockchain as our overload. Fair and Equal decentralized distribution for all!

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It's an interesting idea and there is no discounting for human nature as a general principal so I'm up-voting simply because this post made me stop and think for a moment... even if only a moment.

I'm on steemit because it's new and I'm staying because it's interesting to me.
I'm very curious to see what will become of this experiment and what differences or changes it might bring about in the future, both on steemit it's self and in the social media sphere in general.

You seem to believe that there are no such things as consequences and that rich people somehow are unable to think past tomorrow yet amassed great wealth.

am I the only one who thinks it's ironic this guy is saying that anarchy is bad on steemit?

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