Clarification of my stance on vaccines, and why mandatory vaccination is definitely an issue pertinent to Anarcho-Capitalism/Voluntaryism. PLUS: OPEN INVITATION TO FORMAL DEBATE.

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Clarification of my stance on vaccines, and why mandatory vaccination is definitely an issue pertinent to Anarcho-Capitalism/Voluntaryism. PLUS: OPEN INVITATION TO FORMAL DEBATE.


  • Forced vaccination is definitely an issue pertinent to libertarianism!
  • I do not think the "science is settled."
  • I do not support each and every point raised in each and every article I share on social media.

I have been looking for individuals who would like to debate me in a formal setting. A couple example resolutions include:

  • Forced vaccination is not always a violation of individual self-ownership.
  • The science is settled. No peer-reviewed, published studies warrant further investigation into the area of vaccine safety/efficacy.

I will gladly formally debate either of the above resolutions, arguing the negative.


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I am horrified by mandatory vaccinations. Specifically the 'mandatory' part.... I am pulled in two directions with my beliefs about vaccinations. I think there are some that have been fantastic for us humanoids. BUT, I think it's all gone a bit vaccine crazy now.

My children are vaccinated, but I can't help but wonder if that was the right choice. I personally turn down any of the optional vaccinations for our family such as the flu vaccination.

I really don't know enough about the subject and all the goings on behind the scenes when it comes to vaccinations... All I can do is hold my hands up and say, I really don't know, I don't know.

However, I 100% disagree with making them mandatory, purely on the basis of free will and choice for all - and not violating people's personal body and property rights.

Thanks for your post!

I am in CA and vaccinations are mandatory for our children in order to enter school unless you have a waiver - I am not vaccinated and am 50, my children are not vaccinated at 28 and 30 and my grandbabies are not vaccinated at 3 and 5. All of us are healthy never sick. Our granddaughter missed kindergarten because we were still working on the waiver - finally got a waiver and she will be heading to 1st grade this year. By the way, even with the waiver, the school gave us a hard time with registration - they finally signed off on it. Doesn't it make more sense that if you are vaccinated and you carry the live virus that you have a better chance of getting my unvaccinated child sick - you are a carrier. Look at the children these days, especially the little boys, the vaccinations are affecting them worse than the little girls - walking zombies and ADD and ADHD is now an epidemic - I say no to vaccinations and there is nothing that will change that. It is my understanding that CA is working on a new law that will require adults to be vaccinated and are considering putting on the employers to verify this - more policing in our lives..F U Jerry Brown, not happening with this family..Love you Steemit Friends..SUNSHINE247

Well said. My own experience is much the same. Both myself and my brother are in our 50s, unvaccinated and apart from measles when we were young, we are never ill. Judging by policy in the rest of Europe, I wouldn't be surprised if it was made mandatory here in Ireland eventually. As for compulsory adult vaccines, that would send me running for the border as fast as my little legs woud carry me.

Well, if they every make it mandatory in order to work for an employer, they can go to hell..I am self employed and therefore would be waiving myself :) We will be teaching our children a trade and recommending they not go to college..everything you need to learn is right on the internet and they can teach themselves. Thats a whole other topic that someone should start..IS COLLEGE NECESSARY? Happy Saturday Steemit Friends..SUNSHINE247

Thanks so much for sharing. I was wondering about the current situation in CA. God bless you and your family!

Thank you my Friend..and thank you for this post, great debate :) SUNSHINE

The movie Vaxxed is being shown here in Australia to sold out audiences. Voluntarily organised and distributed. And it is driving the Government and media nuts here. The biggest selling paper in Melbourne has been running major editorials arguing how anti-vaxxers are a cult, that the 'science is settled', and basically we should all just get in line.

Our eyes do not deceive us. Vaccines are dangerous. There is an agenda to spread chaos and mayhem through healthy populations. Children's lives are being destroyed.

What we are dealing with here is nothing short of Fascism.

Mandatory vaccination is one of the biggest mistakes of modern society. First of all, it's not always helpful for health. Otherwise, people want freedom of choice. Really important topic @kafkanarchy84.

You are so correct on this :) Most of the top Doctors in the world have been asked if they vaccinate their children and guess what the answer was..NO!!!!! Now, tell me why that is? @kafkanarchy84, I don't see anyone who has jumped on here who is even ready to debate you or this post. Could it be that the vaccinations have fried their ability to debate? Or maybe they have changed their opinion on vaccinations and are just afraid to admit it..either way, cant thank you enough for this post..I love seeing so many like-minded people who share like-minded opinions..although I do appreciate everyones opinion..it makes this fun :) SUNSHINE247

Being pro-individual natural rights is not the definition of antisocial. If individuals don't have their natural rights then that society is broken, tyrannical, and cannot succeed.

About the so-called science. You do not need the so-called scientific studies, the conclusions of the so-called specialists and authorities. To understand what a vaccination is, you need common sense and the right question.
And I think one of the versions for the right question looks like this. Can the intervention in the natural development process benefit the child? Intervention rough - the injection of dirt into the blood, bypassing the majority of protective barriers of the body. And common sense tells. Nothing good will come of it.

There's no way I can honestly argue the 'pro' side of that debate. Forcibly injecting me is a crime. Forcibly injecting many is a crime against humanity.

There is also no such thing as settled science. If science were settled every time some scientist or other has said it was, scientists would be extinct. Every time some guru or another says 'This is the way it is! It is absolutely fact!', soon there is some revision, or even a complete revolution in the science.

That, in fact, is the point of science.

If you just want a shill to defeat, and you're paying well, I am sure you can find someone to verbally abuse.

I'm just a terrible liar, so you'll need someone else =p

Agreed. Arguing "the science is settled" about pretty much anything in a debate is a sucker's move, and especially in this particular debate, where the anti-vax side has so much evidence (of various quality) of exceptions to the rule.

This post is great! I upvoted and resteemed to help the other people to read it too :D

I am going to wait until morning an resteem so it keeps going - this is always a HOT topic :) Have a GREAT start to your Saturday! SUNSHINE

Thanks so much.

Lol, I'd debate you if I wasn't of the opinion that Mercury is terrible for the body, the science is NOT settled and forcing people to medicate against their will is immoral.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
This paper brings up a correlation between vaccination and SIDS...mentioning that before 1969 it was an almost unheard of phenomenon, but after "US infants were required to receive several doses of DPT, polio, measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines" they started documenting SIDS on a more frequent basis.

My question is: If vaccines are absolutely essential to survival, how did humans survive until 1797? (I understand they have helped a lot, but come on. Better diets and sanitation have gone a long way to eradicating disease, too. We hardly ever mention their importance.)

Yes, and SIDS is so clearly a catch-all term, and a convenient on for the pharmaceutical industry. Nearly anything can be classified as "SIDS." It's an insult to science and our intelligence as individuals. Why did this baby die? Oh, SIDS? What does that mean? Oh, it means you don't know so that is why you call it SIDS? Could it be from an adverse reaction to a vaccine? No? Why? OOOHHHH. Because it's "SIDS." How convenient.

It's disgusting, and they usually follow it up with the Appeal to Authority argument, "Well, I'm a doctor."

Science is rapidly replacing the Priest class as our unquestionable "Truth Bearers".

Doctors are not God!! Its funny to me how so many people bow to the man in the white coat - Times are changing, people are waking up and are getting educated - there are always going to be resistance crowds but that is normal .. there is a reason everything refers to zombies anymore .. they are getting us conditioned for the zombie future .. poisoned world. SUNSHINE247

Any pediatrician who knows what they'rr talking about will tell you SIDS doesn't exist anymore. Never did. An infant's death can almost always be explained.

This deserves some attention. Upvoted and resteemed :]

Cheers, thank you.

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