bloody-hell @yallapapi is right. It doesn't cost much to get on the trending page, but you do need to have balls and money.
So who hasn't read @yallapapi circle-jerking post, or another post where he shouts at us minnows saying, how bloody easy it is to get on the trending page. You basically just buy your way up, and get a following. He has done it multiple times and shows us again and again that he is alone up there in the trending page ( and of course the dude with the guitar).
Anyhow, if you are like me, you dint trust it, when people shout that it is that easy, and actually very cheap, it just feels like you are being scammed, all my alarm bells went off, and I just didn't believe it. But then again, he doesn't gain anything by tricking us. So is he right or is he wrong?
How much did it cost him to get on the trending page? How much did he pay the bots and the re-steemers?
Well it isn't a secret on the blockchain, and open for anybody to see, but I made it easy for you and put together how much @ yallapapi invested and made on his three digit posts.
I'm sure he doesn't mind me telling you guys, as he has been shouting at everybody to follow and told everybody the game already, just not the numbers, probably because it is tedious work, but i'm a sucker for numbers and excel.
I didn't do the calculations as punctual as an accountant, because I left out the fractals, so I could be a several steem of. If you are anal enough to go into the details, by all means correct me. I went through every line of his payments to bots and resteemers, even the refunds, and added it all up. I wont bore you with the 80 lined excel sheet
I left the numbers in SBD and Steem and did not convert it to dollars, as it doesn't make sense to me. In this blockchain, we try to make steem and sbd, and power up. Yeah, eventually you might want to pay yourself, but as a minnow, we first just want to get ahead. So no, I did not fool around with conversions from the time of entering or being paid out.
If you look at his first post that reached the trending page ( more important than you are) you can see it did cost him some money, I estimate 65 sbd, which is either a lot to you or not, but he is right that in "adds-land" its nothing.
He eventually rakes out about 10 articles and upvotes the sh*t out of them, and only three make a loss. The rest are all profitable, probably, also because he is creating a following and getting attention.
The total profit is quite ok ( look at the total, I estimate 360-400 steem), but as he mentioned, nothing to live of yet, but looking into the future of Steemit, he is creating a following ,and earning enough steem within a month to become at least a dolphin within a year.
My verdict:
@yallapapi is telling the truth and his facts are right.
BUT
You do have to have money to keep this up for days, and hope that no whale down votes you, out of sheer annoyance and takes it away.
Second, now the word is out, many people will start doing this, and the ROI on bots will drop, it will become, more expensive to promote yourself. You can already see the trending page starting to get the first people on it that want to game the system just like @yallapapi.
Also you need to be confident that people will vote for you and start following you.......... and that my friends still depends on good content.
I'd just like to say that I've been doing my own testing as well, putting in varying amounts to test different budgets and their performance, and while I'm not ready to share the data quite yet, I can say smaller budgets won't be making you any money back. They're still valuable in terms of the follows and increased engagement you'll get, but as a whole you'll need to spend a larger amount of money to get a good ROI.
I'm experimenting with what I call a medium budget today to see just how much you need minimum to get a good ROI, but so far it seems like the more money you have to put towards it, the better.
I’m intregued to see your outcome. I did it, but did not dare to put in more than 80steem, and that wasn’t enough to make a profit. I think You need to get in the top 10 of the trending, otherwise you will make a loss, but as you said, it does help with followers.
Agreed. You need to break into the top 10 of trending to get a positive ROI it seems.
it takes money to make money
Most of these bots are good but requires alot to really benefit from them.
But i saw a post yesterday you shared where measures are being put in place to downvote posts with high payout but no good content or content is plagiarized. Only hope that will help the system
Hope your health is now better?
Dear inspiredGideon
I saw the post as well and I hope it will work.
My health is still not as I hoped, but better, and I need to get on with it, go to work and ignore the pain ( with some paracetamol and iboprofen :-)). I can’t afford to take more time of. It’s a start up company and things need to be done. When somebody gets ill, it sets the company back. Anyway, thank you for asking.
Ok that's nice. Get better soonest and stay strong.
Your title is incorrect!
It doesn't cost anything at all! 😀
I truly believe the bots are a great threat for Steemit. Isn't @yallapi a witness? And can the witnesses do something about this?
True, in the case of yallapapi he earned money most of the time, but if you are unlucky or not good enough in the game, you will loose on betting on the bots. I will try with this post, and tell you if I won or lost.
if you want to increase the earnings you need to go for the last minute post and buy trick. Although not all bots support that anymore. And it definitely won't work for huge amounts.
Why do they work the best?
I don't have the cash to do that right now. I don't know that I'd do it anyways. I think this type of thing has been going on for a while, but it's new actors who are playing the game now. I wonder how it's going to change the ecosystem.
I just want to try it out for one time, to see how this works, what happens, and how it effects you emotionally. If I look at the trending page, it’s either bought or selfvoted. Everybody in the trending page is gaming the system. I will loose money on this post, but I just want to experience it once, and understand if it’s worth it?
Im not trying to defend myself, as you either play the game or you don’t, but I thought about it long and hard, as I actually don’t like the bots at all.
I don't blame you. If I had an "extra" 40 SBD, I'd try it. As it is, I don't want to throw away all my savings on a losing venture, just so that if I do it a few more times I can be profitable. I'd rather work my way up slowly and predictably.
I actually believe in slow and steady. The faster you rise the harder you might fall?
And I actually just enjoy the interaction on steemit above all.
I tell you if the experience was worth it.
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