Steem as a #Business-Platform

in #business-platform7 years ago (edited)

The Real Potential Of Steem Power

#Steemfest 2 was an inspirational event. My mind has been racing with possibilities ever since. It's funny that even after 16 months on the platform, I can still be only just realizing some of what is possible. I have been thinking about the possibility of the Steem blockchain running services for the community, real world services that are supported as a public good. There are also loads of ideas for businesses that use Steem or run on the Steem Network.

It was only after speaking with @starkerz that I realized you can do far more than this. If you look at #promo-steem, #steemdev or even #bisteemit, you can see examples of independent groups working on Steem that provide the functions of a department within a company. Only there is no formal legal entity here, the "company" which harbors these departments is the great Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) known as Steem.

How are these departments paid for? In all cases it is voluntary work. People may be working because they enjoy it, and don't see it as work, but still they are being paid. That money comes mostly from the Reward Pool. All Steem and Steem Power holders are funding these projects via the dilution of their stake. Allocation of funds is done by the holders of Steem Power, who vote to support work which contributes value to the network.

#promo-steem is the perfect example here. A team of stakeholders including @stephenkendal and @starkerz set out to increase the marketing of the network. They offered to vote for voluntary work which promotes the Steem network. Voluntary workers set out to market Steem in their home country, according to the guidance of #promo-steem, with loans and merchandise made available by the team.

Complete Businesses Via Steem

We can extend this idea further. #promo-steem et al provide the functions of a department. They provide great benefits to Steem but are not a business unto themselves. If stakeholders are able to pay for the wages of voluntary employees in the Steem Network, why not run a whole business instead of just a department?

According to @siersod, whom I met at SteemFest, the minimum wage in Venezuela is $4 per month. In many countries the median wage is even lower than that. A single whale on Steem at the current price distributes about $450 of rewards per day. All else staying equal, that whale could provide the equivalent of the minimum wage to over 3,300 voluntary employees! And that's without all the normal overheads of formal employment.

3,300 people is a large enterprise. I'm not a whale, but at my size I could provide the equivalent of minimum wage to 600 or more people in continuous employment. A small coffee shop might only have a handful of employees, but businesses that are geographically distributed (think Uber, for example) can make use of a large dispersed workforce.

How would it work in practice?

I think one of the keys to running such a business is to view the Steem network as a stakeholder in the business. Steem payouts are by consensus, just because you are upvoting someone doesn't mean they're getting a payout, it has to be allowed by other voters. A business using Steem this way will need capital beyond just the wages for employees, so they will need direct investments as well as the support of the network. Since in order to run a business this way, you'll need to keep the Steem Network happy, it should provide value to the network. After profit is generated, in much the same way a corporation pays dividends to investors and also does share buybacks, an enterprise on Steem would need to split profits between direct investors and the whole network. One way to do this is to simply buy some Steem and burn it, by reducing the total supply you increase everyone else's proportionate stake just a little. Businesses that provide significant value to the network will provide the incentive to Steem holders to want to support it.

Issues and Concerns

This is truly uncharted territory in the world of commerce, it reminds me of the 17th century, when the Dutch East India company pioneered the concept of a multinational corporation. We don't yet know what the real challenges will be, but I will try to identify some:

  1. Almost all employment today is formal, and usually based on a personal relationship between employee and employer. Especially if done on a large scale, we may not know how well informal and distributed profit making businesses will function. Until smart contract technology develops further, there may be significant elements of trust in these businesses, especially when it comes to employees handling money. The details of this will need to be well thought through.
  2. Businesses operate with the will of the network. In some cases a single whale could have a grudge against the network, or wish to extort it. Other whales would need to actively defend businesses in the Steem space from extortion, or this kind of commerce comes to a standstill. This is just a microcosm of Steem as a whole, although businesses could be especially vulnerable.
  3. Informal employment may avoid issues of state taxes and regulations for now, but it may not work everywhere, and even where it does work, the law can change. Admittedly the state moves much slower than the crypto space.
  4. Tracking and rewarding direct investment may be tricky, and introduce legal issues. SMT's may help on the technical side once they're released, but they'd almost certainly be considered securities. If you incorporate as a legal company, you will have 3 sets of stakeholders to contend with: investors in the company, direct Steem supporters and the Steem Network itself.

Please comment other issues that you see with this idea. I'd really like to see it fleshed out more. I also have some ideas for what kinds of business would be suitable in practice.

Credit for this idea goes to @starkerz, I am just trying to develop upon it.

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Love it. Check out @ned post on Oracles. "Real world event confirmations to construct reward pools around incentivized real world actions."
https://steemit.com/smt-oracles/@ned/the-smt-oracles-whitepaper-call-for-academics-modelers-and-deep-thinkers

Nice post! What will happening, if someone resteem your post?

@brian-rhodes The implications in this are truly huge! they put another dimension of mind blowing potential to SMT's!
This is something i was disusing with many people at SF. how do we democratically elect more eyes to find the bet value work on the platform. we Oracles is the answer. Ned is truly a few steps ahead of the game on this one! great to see! thanks for the link! very useful!

Oracles can also be use to distribute salaries to certain activities (hopefully value added)! this is just awesome stuff!

GREAT meeting you at steemfest! sad i could not catch you on that last night, although i think i would not have recovered should I have gone out with you loonies! congrats on being out at the last after party young man!

STEEMON!

@starkerz Oracles and Oracle QAs are the first steps in the verification of the work/action completed - in the fiat world, the audit. With these tools I would expect a greater willingness for businesses to migrate onto the platform especially in the humanitarian footprint if not the corporate footprint! Check out Singular TV and Tokit.io. It's for the entertainment space but might hold promise for so much more. Take care!

Thanks Rhodsey!!

@demotruk, I really appreciate you having written this visionary blog, you have done the initial concept far more justice than I could have! Great to see real work discussions materializing on the blockchain (which will then result in actions in the real world). Much appreciate the mention here. You have my full support going forward, the use of the #business-platform is important here. The more I think abou this, the more I feel that we need to set up a VERY simple profit making event or mirco business in the real world where everyone can simply and clearly see how it works. how the upvotes generate a reward for people voluntarily comming together to spend their time and effort to collectively create something that has more value than the individul. The results of which render a profit or increase in value of some sort. such profits can be returned back to the community through open market purchases of steem, meaning everyone got rewarded for their time and effort and the steem price went up a little for the whole community.

we need to figure out a few things.

  1. what is the most simple way to provide upvotes and turn a profit
  2. how do we for a group to do this (assuming the event / business will occur in a specific location)
  3. how do we record the sales and ensure they go back into steem
  4. how do we accumulate enough whales to fund such an event / business
  5. steemit is about setting a simple example to inspire other to do the same - so how do we best record this initiative and publicize it on the blockchain?

All very interesting stuff going forwards!

This idea is very interesting, as we say is venezuela is fabric to cut. But I also take into account the ideas of @starkerz. In Venezuela there is currently an economic crisis, which is causing a lot of talent to migrate to other countries and I mention it because although this project can promise, you have to work with the minds of all people, to make a change in education or culture. It is an idea that can be worked on and made to grow. but it is important that we continue working with the promotion. that people discover and see another way to generate income. Here in Venezuela there is a marketing genius that says that what does not excite does not sell and we can sign on that too

Thinking of an example with a food delivery service.

  1. At certain steps of the process, employees take photos of the job complete. For example, the cook posts a photo of the completed meal with @steepshot. The driver takes a selfie with the customer on delivery. The customer can share the selfie on social media, and we can upvote them too (as a marketing bonus/discount). All these posts should use a specific tag so that we can upvote them according to the business plan.
  2. I think we should open communication with the communities in Venezuela, Nigeria and/or Aceh. My preference is in that order too. Venezuela is our largest growing market and it's very ripe for this kind of enterprise. Nigeria is a close second, and I have good relationships with some Nigerian steemians. Aceh is more difficult, the communication barrier is much greater. However on the plus side, I have a delegation customer in Aceh whom is already running a coffee shop which accepts Steem transactions every day.
  3. We may need a website or app for that. This is probably the biggest hurdle to get started unless the business is small scale enough that we could do it on a trusted basis.
  4. Challenging. The full business plan would need to be determined, so we know exactly how much capital is required and how much return could be expected.
  5. Recording would happen pretty automatically as part of operation. Although we could get someone involved to turn the whole thing into a documentary.

Lo que dices es grandioso, soy de Venezuela y me estoy organizando para crear grupos de trabajo donde se obtengas ideas frescas para llevar al mundo real, conseguí un local para reunirnos con personas de todas las comunidades.

U have some great questions to my pain in the arse questions! Most of them are excellent. I think it would be better to start off running a one or 2 man coffee shop or hot dog stand or something where we use interest free steem loan (interest pay meant comes from upvotes) to stock the shop or stand and use our upvotes to pay the salary. Profits then go back into steem.

I try to understand things a little better, in the case of the hot dog stand, the money acquired with the sales would come in bolivars, that money would be exchanged in the STEEM market and the two employees would receive a salary in STEEM or SBD. I am right?

Yes. Direct payment in Steem and Steem Dollars would also be an option of course.

A slight sideways take on this, but the web development company I work for in the UK is currently setting up a new side company that requires extra web developers and web designers.

I have been looking at options for employing freelancers through steemit and paying in steem. They could then be from anywhere in the world.

That presents an interesting situation in the context of what you mentioned about Venezuela for example.

In the UK we would likely be paying c $30 - $60 per hour. But with a minimum wage of around $10 per month in Venezuela one hour of work at the UK rate would be equivalent to at least 3 months min wage!!!

This presents an interesting ethical dilemma. Should everyone be paid the same UK rate. That would seem fair.

But then alternatively we could employ 10 people in Venezuela each receiving one tenth the UK rate and still be receiving a very good income in Venezuelan terms. Which route is better?

In a more general context I'm interested to hear how any employers who employ people around the world deal with this.

Trying to think in terms of fairness makes everything more complicated. Paying the same amount to someone in the UK as someone in Venezuela is unfair, someone in Venezuela can buy far more with the same money than someone in Britain. Someone in Britain cannot sustain themselves on what you could pay 10 people in Venezuela.

On the other hand is it fair for you to have to pay someone more when you can get the same or more value from someone else for less?

Pay in such a way that you maximize the value for your money, as long as all the labour is consensual. In the long run that will work out better than trying to apply fairness to every transaction.

for now, this level of detail is too deep, i think, we need to stay on the conceptual level at the moment, follow that by some sort of busniess model, and follow that by details of how or who is paid what in order to ensure we turn a profit

I love your thinking. This is an amazing approach in terms of changing the world no less. Cutting out the middlemen (and layers of institutional cost) and helping people directly.

There's definitely some great potential business application to be leveraged on this platform. I got the same sense from watching @starkerz talk. Very eye opening...

I'm pretty interested in how the the musician can create their own business using steemit.

For example, If a huge artist came to steemit and decided they were going to primarily release content here, or perhaps only "special" or "bonus" content, what do you think all their die hard fans would do...?

They'd join Steemit, or at least visit the site right.

All of sudden, the artist has a new business framework to leverage and at the same time, they've promoted steemit and brought new users which inevitable helps push STEEM.

@steembirds is working on some other ideas to help leverage steemit to fuel the music community and Openmic in particular. More details on that in the next few months tho!

JB

This is along the lines of jeff berwicks idea of giving JayZ 1M steem and let the marketing happen over night ;)

Thanks for the positive things you said above about my presentation!

It would probably work wonders, however I'm a little unreceptive to the idea of giving some1 who already has millions of dollars more millions as an incentive to come to the platform...

Give me that million Steem and I'd make it a mission to convince music artists of all levels of notoriety to join the Steemit Community ;)

And indeed, your talk was a good idea generator from my point of view!

Haha! Well said sir!!

#bisteemit buddy

And yes, this is the key use case for me.

Wish I'd spoken with Matt, a big miss. Currently writing my review of the festival, taking ages!

Cheers!

Thanks for the correction, will edit. Steemfest was huge, literally impossible to talk to everyone I wanted to :-(

Yep, I actually feel like I failed at SF. A good reason to try and get there next year I guess!

Next year you'll have to meet 600 people :-P

I'll be more prepared next time!

This sound like a good excuse to go to steemfest 3 already ;))

Next time I'll be presenting; 'See I told you this would moon!'

WOW! This is a wonderful idea you just propounded here. I agree with you. Another way for Steemit and Steemto expand is by providing value that is going to affect the lives of people beyond the blockchain. Real people with real everyday life have to feel the impact.

Word of mouth spreads fast once this is done. As we are decentralizing the internet, we also have to decentralize the offline part of life because thats where a larger percentage of humans are.

I have heard about #promo-steem and the exploits they do. But a project that I saw recently which utilized this idea creatively was @stach sponsored by @sndbox. They successfully built an offline hub for free wifi and other internet activities in Nigeria. I thnk more of that will help steem gain a solid offline and online foundation which will eventually ripple intoits price and value.

Thanks for sharing your awesomeness @demotruk! Cheers!

Agree. I want to see real world, material businesses in this model, not just online businesses. It lends itself to distributed real world businesses in particular.

Yeah! Very true. Thanks for the good-job you are doing. Goodluck!

This is a great example however, I am having a call with one of the guys who set this up tonight. his name is @ejemai i will try to find out how the stem flows through that unit. ultimately, this is about how to ensure steemit is sustainable, rather than leaving it up to 'market forces' so anything like this is a great example. My initial hope is how can we make it very simple and very clear to the community how these models would work, incorporating lessons learned from previous failures, legal issues and simple example models so anyone can easily set up and raise funds for their steem business that will provide an buying pressure on the steem price and thus make the steemit models sustainability unquestionable.

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