RE: Youtube Bans Infowars (I Condemn This)
Have you seen him say that, or have you just seen MANY news sites saying he said that. I challenge you to find him saying what they are claiming. I honestly don't think you can.
You need to WAKE UP in one regard. If someone makes a claim/allegation against ANYONE you should expect to see EVIDENCE instead of being stupid and just taking it as true because they said it was. Do some research. Think for yourself instead of allowing yourself to be weaponized by liars.
Alex Jones has said a lot of things I didn't like. Yet the claims about Sandy Hook don't happen to be one of them. That's why when he is in court over this and they watch the actual videos where he doesn't say this his accusers lose the case.
We need to go back to being a country where people are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Right now we are GUILTY until PROVEN innocent and if you happen to be viewed as an enemy like Alex Jones you can be PROVEN innocent and the media will keep speaking the lies as though that proof does not exist.
For some time it has been the Sandy Hook thing.
They also accuse him of saying there were Children as Slaves on Mars when I happened to see that show and it was guest Robert David Steele who said that at the very end and Alex did not go along with it. It was almost like Steele said that out of the blue at the end just to give the media something to attribute to Alex.
Now the recent talk about him attacking and pushing down a child. The guy in the video is not Alex Jones, not even remotely close. Alex talked about that video, but he is not the one in the video or affiliated with it. It just happened to be a viral video he commented on.
So unless you can find UNEDITED footage of him actually saying things about Sandy Hook then why continue repeating untruths?
Yeah, I've seen him call sandy hook a hoax. It's insane. Stop defending a madman, please, and thank you.
Prove it. Show the video. Until you can show it you're condemning a person without evidence. Especially depending upon where you saw it at. Was it unedited video? He's talked about it a lot so yeah with proper editing he can be made to say anything.
At the moment if you think it is okay to treat someone as guilty based upon allegations then it is YOU who are mad.
You do realize this has gone to court, and the videos that were brought there did not show this? This is fact.
How much you dislike a person doesn't suddenly make "guilty until proven innocent", "or guilty with no care for proof" a non-evil and mad thing.
Look in a mirror and wake the fuck up.
EDIT: I'll continue to be honest with you. If you can show the evidence and it hasn't been sliced and diced in some media center editing factory that shows what they are saying I'll agree with you. In fact A LOT of people will agree with you. The problem is they say it is SO, and they don't show the evidence.
As to the MADMAN comment.
I believe in "Innocent until PROVEN guilty". I will follow that even for people that I dislike a great deal. It is not okay to apply the LAW and JUSTICE for some people, and then think we don't need to follow it for others.
Mad or not.
The opinion of X amount of people even if X is a lot of people does not make evil behavior suddenly good.
Defaming people without proof and continuing to spread that defamation without showing the footage to back it up is evil.
If he said it, isn't it strange that none of these news outlets play it while they are making the claims. They don't seem to have to problem playing other videos.... HMMMM Why is that?
There's plenty of "sliced and diced" clips of him saying that sandy hook was an "inside job" and that the parents are "crisis actors". I can spend a few hours going through his stuff, but I have seen enough of his garbage to know what he said and how he said it. I don't believe things unless I see them, and claiming I do is rather silly.
Adding a qualifier of not allowing edits to be shown as proof is rather silly. I can link you plenty of montages of him saying heinous stuff, but if that's not good then I have to concede to your ridiculous criteria because I don't feel like wasting my time.
Also. Even if he did say it. He has the right to say it if we have free speech.
Free speech does not mean NO consequences. In history people have often been shunned or ostracized for saying unpopular (even untrue) things.
If it is defamation and truly harmful then the court system is there for that.
Censorship is a slippery slope and a very bad thing.
I dislike a lot of things people say, yet I'll fight to defend their right to say it.
As to Sandy Hook. My current opinion is that it happened. I don't put the same importance on whether it did or did not as some people. All I really care about is evidence/proof if people or persons are accused regardless of how vile they may be.
Reminder free speech doesn't protect you from direct threats of violence and libel/slander, both of which AJ has been directly guilty of. You can keep trying to defend your cult hero if you want to look like a fool in front of civilized society, but you will remain on the fringe, and will be looked at with scorn by a majority of people. That's what happens when you're dead wrong. Just like AJ.
Take it to court. If you can prove it you are correct and something will be done.
Yet simply saying it is the person doing what they are claiming he is doing. Yet that is actually common. Following the playbook of Joseph Goebbels the Propaganda Minister for the Nazis and Hitler.
Then as to your repetition and cult leaders comment... If Alex is repeating the Sandy Hook claims... why can't we find many examples? I can't, and I looked.
I can find massive amounts of the media saying that is what he did, and blaming him of the same things you are. Hell they don't even need sources anymore they can just claim there are sources.
That won't hold up in court. It will hold up in the minds of the ignorant that don't understand that simply stating a thing does not make it true.
Lenin would be pleased.
Calling something a hoax isn't 'sending his cult to attack Sandy Hook victims...'
You're making shit up. You know it. That makes you a liar.
I know it, and so does everyone that ever sees this exchange, which you can never deny occurred, since it's on the blockchain.
I have misstated things before here. What I do when I discover I'm wrong is admit it, and change my mind.
Then, I'm right.
You could do that too.
We'll see what you do.
Lol, you have no idea how social power works.
when you repeatedly scream and yell things for years, while having brainwashed cultists follow you listen to every word, they WILL do crazy shit. That's how cults work. You can't just say "yeah i mean i said we should murder people over and over for years and then someone actually did it but its not my fault bro!" (re: vegas). Life doesn't work that way.
Take a sociology class sometime, you are stunningly uneducated in the field.
You mean like the media repeatedly yelling about Alex Jones and not providing the proof. Or the same media using greenscreens to hoax them being in say Afghanistan during the attack, or interviewing two people one in New York and one in the UK but in reality both interviewees were just standing at different points in a parking lot in New York. Or making a protest seem huge that had maybe a dozen people walking around in a small taped off section that passersby caught on their phone showing the scam?
So if they repeat the thing over and over again and YOU are buying into it does that mean you are the cult?
I don't give a flying fuck about "the media". I use decentralized social mediums for a reason. Go back to tumblr with these arguments lmfao.
I've never been to tumblr. Nice attempt at deflection though. Typical response from people that can't prove their point with evidence.
Attack and deflect.
It doesn't work on me.
Just make me keep looking at you standing there nude claiming you are wearing beautiful clothing. ;)
Spoken like a true cultist. You completely ignored the points I made. This is because you cannot address them and pretend to be reasonable.
Name one person AJ said we should murder.
You keep making shit up, and it keeps being not true. If you could let that sink in for just a moment, you might realize it has relevance to the social group you are defending for those little hits of dopamine you get each time you do.
That might enable you to just walk away. It doesn't matter to where you go, as anywhere would be better able to avail you of reason. No one will benefit more from you being reasonable than you.
I love ignoring evidence and videos of things and yelling at people on the internet to defend a right wing looney toon nutjob who wants to murder minorities. Sounds like a good life.
That's part of the dopamine hits I was referring to. Denying facts you know to be true in defense of your social group also provides the rush.
You may need a twelve step program to break your addiction. Consider 'On and on Anon', for folks unable to stop blathering.
God, you're so fucking thick lmfao.
I was making fun of you, because YOU are the one ignoring facts and evidence, you clown of a human.
You may need a twelve step program to break your addiction. Consider 'On and on Anon', for folks unable to stop blathering.
As usual, I will encourage you to support your thesis by citing examples that prove it.
I never ignore evidence. I can't.
Do try. I will be entertained.