Some thoughts on Veganism and Anarchy.

Something I've noticed a lot in the vegan movement and which is likely to create some controversy because so many people are so.. Umm..

"Accustomed to government" and the way things have been set up and accepted that to question an alternative is almost seen as ludicrous/crazy at this point.

Is that... Most vegans don't seem to have a good/deep grasp of the corruption in politics or at the very least shall I say that they don't share a similar philosophical opinion in regards to ethics and morality as I do.

For example.. As much as I applaud human efforts to reduce harming animals and the environment in general.. I don't think the answer is government. I don't necessarily think we should be cheering on more government or even trying to use it at all.

Government is force. Violent force. If you disagree with the law and resist it violent force comes down on you. If you resist long enough you will be physically beaten, possibly killed and if not taken to a cage for disobeying.

I don't advocate that. I advocate peaceful education and discussion and people voluntarily changing their minds because it makes sense to them not because they are forced to.

True change can only come from within, making things illegal often makes them more abundant and worse.

The black market will cancel out your efforts and if you think you can outlaw something look at marijuana, or drugs in general. See anyone quitting cause of laws? Or just more crime and shady people getting more rich by extreme black market prices?

Good people don't need laws and criminals don't obey them. Not to mentiom government is likely the largest cause of unnatural human death in history responsible for killing hundreds of millions of innocent people just in the 20th century alone. (Look up Democide)

Plus government subsidizes animal products something like 99% animal products to 1% fruits and vegetables. At least in the US probably elsewhere in the world too. They are directly responsible for many commercials and campaigns that brainwash people in that direction as well.

Why would you invoke the biggest killer of animals as well as humans which are technically animals as well to try to fix the problem? They are the ones causing and propogating it!

The only way I think can be is if you don't understand or know about the non agression principle or you don't believe in it, or don't understand how it works in relation to government.

Go back to my earlier example of someone being beaten or killed or imprisoned for disobeying law. Behind EVERY law is a gun. Violent force will be used if disobeyed enough.

You may ask and think what about murder and rape and aren't the laws that criminalize such good? There would be chaos if there was no law!

The answer is each case in my opinion should be treated on an individual basis in that local community among those people involved as opposed to a one size fits all mentality forced by mob rule and occult strings.

And that if someone does something immoral they will face the consequence that the people around them who were effected think they should face.

IE people will still be punished for doing bad things, it'll just be more localized and specifically tailored for each case and not based arbitrarily, artificially and rigidly the way it is from some far off ivory tower occupied by "elites".

Why do I say artificially? Cause it is pretty clear to me after years of research that your vote doesn't matter. Studies have been done which show this rather conclusively and I have never in my life met someone who could prove to me that their voted was counted or that it mattered.

Riddle me this..

If government is the biggest cause of unnatural animal and human death.. And if government force is immoral to begin with and if your vote doesn't mean anything. Why do you keep looking to it as a solution or as a good thing?

From my point of view the belief in government is one of the biggest threats to our species especially as I've personally got a deeper than average look at how it really works and I've spent years researching the deeper secretive aspects and I believe that many if not most major moral world issues stem from it.

If you don't want harm done to animals, that should include humans as well and government is the biggest culprit. Well.. Actually the occult that secretly run it. But the concepts of veganism and anarchism(no rulers) go together beautifully.

It's the golden rule and respect. If you wouldn't want it done to you, don't do it to others.
To adovcate no one rule over the animals I think one should include human domestication in there as well in my opinion.

Humans are the most valuable livestock to the those who are in power as we are like robots that do all their jobs and we can create so many amazing things like rockets to outerspace and the internet, and humans need more freedom as well.

According to recent research people now work longer hours than slaves of ancient times and now pay for their own food, housing, and medicine. Meanwhile the livestock owners are living like kings and queens as most of the livestock don't even realize they are livestock.

The government has claimed the power to be able to INDEFINITELY imprison or EVEN to execute anyone without due process or to have to show the evidence to the public. They claim the right to take any property and food supplies and money and put people in slave labor camps. You think you're free?

Last thing I'ma say is.. Nixon said something like "Anyone can become president of the United States, but only a select few can ever hope of becoming the president of the Bohemian Club"

And let's just say the Bohemian Club is probably not even the top of the pyramid so to speak and if you're not aware of the Cremation of Care and the mock human sacrifice that goes on every year in California at the Bohemian grove by the elite of the world then you should probably study up on that stuff a lil bit before you debate me. Just a tip.

Ps if you think you're more free in Europe or elsewhere I hate to break it to you, but it looks like same occult groups essentially run and control most of the whole world. There's only a few places who appear to not be owned and run by them and you probably don't live there.

Peace.