Well, Thomas sounds like an ok dude but when he transmogrifies into Jake he becomes preoccupied with money and his attitude to woman stinks. I was particularly triggered by Women? He knew that higher-quality woman cost more, so much so that I've had to seek refuge in my safe space;)
Whoops! I didn't even notice that the prompt had the name, Thomas. Thank you for pointing it out. I corrected it )))
Do you disagree that high-quality women (by that man understand more beautiful women) cost more? All rich people have beautiful wives and girlfriends. Is that not so?
I suppose if one equates higher quality with most aesthetically pleasing then like any other collectible, the more beautiful ones will demand a higher price. Don't you think that the same can be said of men and that rich women too tend to have beautiful male partners.?
That’s how it is. Beautiful women (bw) is what every man wants before he can find out about a woman’s intellectual or spiritual qualities. Thus bw have a lot of offers from men who seek their attention and their favors. Although they can offer very different things: tickets to a movie or a trip to Fiji on a personal yacht. More importantly, lately, women are more educated and often make more money than men. Therefore, a man of average appearance and average income doesn’t stand the chance of having women’s attention, let alone romance and family.
Owning money makes wonders. And you are absolutely right. Beauty is like any other natural talent in women or men. And rich women can also get themselves better-looking partners. )))
I was triggered by this too. Assuming or equating women with money is insulting to women. Men who think this is true will certainly attract women who are looking for money. No amount of money could make me (assuming I was an attractive woman "worth more money") date a jerk who thought money was that important, or that he could buy me with it.
But this is a work of fiction right? So character's of all kinds are good for story telling.
))) Who said anything about buying? What are we in Saudi Arabia? No. It is called a high maintenance cost. A beautiful woman has lots of offers as everybody want her. Lots of men are trying to gain her attention. So she can have a lot to choose from.
One man lives in a small apartment and another one in a penthouse or in a mansion. One man drives Honda and anther one drives Rolls Royce. One man offers to take her to the movies and another one takes her to a beautiful vacation in Fiji or all around Europe.
What is so insulting about it? And this isn't something that happening today. Have you read Jack London's novel "Martyn Eaden"? Exactly the same situation. Martyn meets a girl, who is much higher than him in social status. He is taken not only by her beauty but by her education and culture. She also likes him, but despite liking him she dumps him. However, when Martyn becomes a famous writer, she now loves all his stories at which she sneered before and even goes at night in his hotel hoping to compel him to marry her in this way.
Another novel is "American tragedy" by Theodore Dreiser. Characters are different, circumstances are different, but the problem is the same. The main character Clyde Griffiths is a poor man who wants to elevate his social status through marriage fells in love with the rich girl Sondra Finchley and she's contemplating marrying him as well. The problem is Clyde has a pregnant girlfriend Roberta, who he also loves but who now stands in his way. So he takes her to the lake and drowns her. The pinnacle of the tragedy is hidden though. The thing is that Roberta - a nice and a pretty girl, whom Clyde picked from many many workers likes him also because for her he is a man of a higher social status than she is.
Half of all the World's famous novels is exactly about this. A man loves a woman, but she prefers another one because he's rich. Dickens "Great Expectations."
I never said I hated it. I agreed with @deirdyweirdy that a sentence triggered me, but as I said it's a work of fiction so it's all ok.
The other works you cited are also works of fiction, written in different times. In my world today people are judged for who they are, not what they own or how much money is in their bank account. In fact many of the lessons in fiction today (that I read or see) are that money isn't what makes good relationships and that "high maintenance" men or women are not the right choice. I suspect there are still people living by those stereotypes, so I guess I'm lucky that it doesn't hold true in my life or the many people I know.
We're all entitled to our opinions and I guess we just disagree on "how it is". Life is wonderful in how it gives us variety and choices to shape our beliefs and our choices. I don't have any desire to try to make you agree with mine, just pointing out a different point of view on the subject of men and women.
That's true. Much depends on personal experience. I am glad that your experience was different and hope that mine was a thin slice of reality and not to be extrapolating from. 👍
LOL. Why do you say so? Can you elaborate? Not that I disagree with your conclusion. Just interested in your argumentation. )))
Well, Thomas sounds like an ok dude but when he transmogrifies into Jake he becomes preoccupied with money and his attitude to woman stinks. I was particularly triggered by Women? He knew that higher-quality woman cost more, so much so that I've had to seek refuge in my safe space;)
Whoops! I didn't even notice that the prompt had the name, Thomas. Thank you for pointing it out. I corrected it )))
Do you disagree that high-quality women (by that man understand more beautiful women) cost more? All rich people have beautiful wives and girlfriends. Is that not so?
I suppose if one equates higher quality with most aesthetically pleasing then like any other collectible, the more beautiful ones will demand a higher price. Don't you think that the same can be said of men and that rich women too tend to have beautiful male partners.?
That’s how it is. Beautiful women (bw) is what every man wants before he can find out about a woman’s intellectual or spiritual qualities. Thus bw have a lot of offers from men who seek their attention and their favors. Although they can offer very different things: tickets to a movie or a trip to Fiji on a personal yacht. More importantly, lately, women are more educated and often make more money than men. Therefore, a man of average appearance and average income doesn’t stand the chance of having women’s attention, let alone romance and family.
Owning money makes wonders. And you are absolutely right. Beauty is like any other natural talent in women or men. And rich women can also get themselves better-looking partners. )))
I was triggered by this too. Assuming or equating women with money is insulting to women. Men who think this is true will certainly attract women who are looking for money. No amount of money could make me (assuming I was an attractive woman "worth more money") date a jerk who thought money was that important, or that he could buy me with it.
But this is a work of fiction right? So character's of all kinds are good for story telling.
Thank you! Glad you hated it. )))
))) Who said anything about buying? What are we in Saudi Arabia? No. It is called a high maintenance cost. A beautiful woman has lots of offers as everybody want her. Lots of men are trying to gain her attention. So she can have a lot to choose from.
One man lives in a small apartment and another one in a penthouse or in a mansion. One man drives Honda and anther one drives Rolls Royce. One man offers to take her to the movies and another one takes her to a beautiful vacation in Fiji or all around Europe.
What is so insulting about it? And this isn't something that happening today. Have you read Jack London's novel "Martyn Eaden"? Exactly the same situation. Martyn meets a girl, who is much higher than him in social status. He is taken not only by her beauty but by her education and culture. She also likes him, but despite liking him she dumps him. However, when Martyn becomes a famous writer, she now loves all his stories at which she sneered before and even goes at night in his hotel hoping to compel him to marry her in this way.
Another novel is "American tragedy" by Theodore Dreiser. Characters are different, circumstances are different, but the problem is the same. The main character Clyde Griffiths is a poor man who wants to elevate his social status through marriage fells in love with the rich girl Sondra Finchley and she's contemplating marrying him as well. The problem is Clyde has a pregnant girlfriend Roberta, who he also loves but who now stands in his way. So he takes her to the lake and drowns her. The pinnacle of the tragedy is hidden though. The thing is that Roberta - a nice and a pretty girl, whom Clyde picked from many many workers likes him also because for her he is a man of a higher social status than she is.
Half of all the World's famous novels is exactly about this. A man loves a woman, but she prefers another one because he's rich. Dickens "Great Expectations."
It might be insulting, but this is how it is. )))
I never said I hated it. I agreed with @deirdyweirdy that a sentence triggered me, but as I said it's a work of fiction so it's all ok.
The other works you cited are also works of fiction, written in different times. In my world today people are judged for who they are, not what they own or how much money is in their bank account. In fact many of the lessons in fiction today (that I read or see) are that money isn't what makes good relationships and that "high maintenance" men or women are not the right choice. I suspect there are still people living by those stereotypes, so I guess I'm lucky that it doesn't hold true in my life or the many people I know.
We're all entitled to our opinions and I guess we just disagree on "how it is". Life is wonderful in how it gives us variety and choices to shape our beliefs and our choices. I don't have any desire to try to make you agree with mine, just pointing out a different point of view on the subject of men and women.
That's true. Much depends on personal experience. I am glad that your experience was different and hope that mine was a thin slice of reality and not to be extrapolating from. 👍