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RE: Drug War Stories: Wrapped in Wise County

in #war6 years ago

You are greatly misinformed about our supposed "laws"
The Traffic Code, The Controlled Dangerous Substances Act, Hell, everything is commerce related. In other words, if you are not doing something for a profit or gain then these so called "laws" do not apply to you. I guess I need to bring my Facebook notes over here so I can educate idiots like you.

(48) _Ultimate user_ means a person who has lawfully obtained and possesses a controlled substance for the person's own use, for the use of a member of the person's household, or for administering to an animal owne.png

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yea I don't understand the ad hominem using the word idiot? I think it best if people make their arguments and stick to the arguments. The tyrants are the ones that try to obfuscate logic and facts.

You seem to have conflated federal and state law for some inexplicable reason. How about instead of posting memes you try to make an argument like a grownup and without any name calling?

Hopefully we can keep a level of decorum here. I'm not planning to institute rules or anything but I don't understand the use of an ad hominem.

It just makes him seem angry and confused. I didn't down vote him but someone will if he keeps on like that. I like that you and I can discuss things civilly.

fuck downvotes. Stupiedest part of steem by leaps and bounds. We should be building people up and catalyzing voluntary association not breaking them down and letting mal contents run wild to harm others arbitrarily.

Idk if ad hominems are necesarily incivil, still using words i'd say is civil. But no point to not keep it to logic. I want to facilitate discussion that realizes truth, not hurts and intimidates people and makes them fear to speak their mind.

Yes, this meme is showing you that at both the Federal and State, the term "Ultimate User" are the same. Also, the state actually is bound by the Federal code. Every state in the union will say something to the effect of "As controlled by the Federal CSA"...

The point is, if you are an "Ultimate User" than you can lawfully use and possess any controlled substance at both the Federal and State levels.

as long as you lawfully obtained it first.

Yes, it is very important to note the use of the word "lawfully" as opposed to "Legally"..
In other words if it is not obtained by force or fraud.

Legal - Form and Appearance of law - no substance

Lawful - Actual Law - Has Substance

and how do you imagine lawfully obtaining a substance that is illegal to purchase or cultivate?

I would imagine that law is so that people like researchers and cops can have illegal drugs in their possession. It is pretty clear that it is not a general loophole that anyone can use.

It is very clear these so-called "laws" are for those engaged in commerce only. These "laws" were never intended to be used against users.
Look, it really simple, Congress only has two basic powers delegated to them in Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, to regulate commerce and to regulate the employed militia. Everything in Article 1 Section relates to these two things.
So, its really simple to figure out that this act of Congress is either related to commerce or the militia.

The "Ultimate User" term makes it abundantly clear if the substance is for your own use than it is a lawful activity.

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