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RE: My Take On Vote Buying? I'm Out! ⛔ Chances & Challenges Of Open Economic Systems

in #votebuying7 years ago (edited)

One way is to stop voting on content that use them. After a while the only upvotes that content will earn will be paid which will make it unprofitable for the content creator.

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We can even start flagging identified vote traders...

PS I think if we tweak the "promoted" section in a smart way we can diminish vote traders very much. For example throw promoted post's into trending page (every 10th post for example) and use a obvious badge icon that informs that it is "promoted"... Then maybe applying the option to filter them out BUT "loosing" some hypothetical profit sharing activated capabilities from the promoted posts... (get paid to see promoted posts, like BAT are trying to do...)

The badge icon idea is great! Like that!

Promoted post

Then everybody knows that it's been a "bought position". Also people who don't want to upvote promoted content, may avoid allocating their upvotes on these marked blog posts.

A badge would require a change of the UI design, correct?

Yep, but relative easy to do.

If we give more power to our promoted section and the same time use a badge, then the majority would prefer to throw SBDs to get promoted that way instead of buying delegation... The same time the SBDs would raise the value of all STEEM holders and not only the pockets of individuals that happens to have a lot of power.

Then everybody knows that it's been a "bought position". Also people who don't want to upvote promoted content, may avoid allocating their upvotes on these marked blog posts.

EXACTLY!

Ah OK now I got it. You'd like to re-activate the already existing Promoted section in order to weaken the vote trade industry? Smart move :-)

Time to copy @sneak and @vandeberg here, just in case they'd like to consider some of the ideas.

This might be a golden idea right here. what better way for visibility than to increase the value of Steem. This can solve the whole vote buying issue.

We have @transparencybot for total bids over $50 now - but you need to look into the post.

Also, a keen eye and using the bottracker webpage as reference, it's pretty easy to spot a bought post.

Less so with vote-selling now in the frame, but a check in the wallet of the post owner will clarify.

I wish I could resteem this!

I have no idea how to remedy it.

Me neither. But maybe talking about it is the very first step :-)

I have my bot programmed not to vote on posts with votes from pay-for-vote services, but it would be a bit of a headache to do this with manual votes.

Also vote buying is not always offered as a public service. If user A sells a vote to user B in return for attention, we can't even track that.

I think it's rather a question of culture, community-spirit, vision than just a question of algos... Don't you think?

So what we look out for are the posts that have a comment saying they've been upvoted by one of the vote buying places right?

Hey sweetie! Yeah, one idea here is to mark these articles with a badge (symbol) and like that make visible that their position within the content ranking has been bought and not earned.

If the rest of the system worked correctly this would be an issue but greater concerns that are more damaging to reward pool and steemit as a whole would be

  • sock puppet witnesses
  • selective moderation
  • witnesses with privileges above standards of steemit
  • self voting whales
  • Whales setup to pay investors with no basis on quality
  • vote trading between high sp holders and old users

i believe these would be more pressing issues to the economic value of the system

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