Dtubesnap: Can we have views rather than upvotes on dtube platform? This will enhance the participation of contributors on the platform.
Hello dtube fam,
I have a suggestion here in this video, and it will be of great help to the growth of dtube platform. YouTube is a great idea in mind when it comes to viewing/streaming contents. Dtube is our steem version here on the blockchain, and engagement and utmost participation should be of paramount effect. This suggestion right here will enhance the participation of content creators and contributors on the dtube platform.
what about if we incorporate views into the dtube platform and each vlogs are determined by the views and engagement of the content in order to stay on the trending page on d.tube rather than the usual upvotes. Upvotes should not determine the efficiency or wroth of a vlog rather the collective effort, engagement and views of the contributors should be...
I would be expecting your opinion and suggestions on this, watch the video for insight!
Thanks!
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I'm 100% against introducing view counts on DTube.
It is not easy to do this in a 100% decentralized manner (having Steem accounts to broadcast a tx every time they watch a video here will screw up their resource credits for new users especially - but wait... what about users who are NOT logged in?). If this is actually done, every page refresh will count as a view and it can be abused easily (that's what happened to YouTube before they switched their algorithm to favour watch time). Which leads us to the 2nd point...
To prevent the above system to be abused, a) algorithms need to be built to filter illegitimate views (which is impossible to do it in a decentralized way), or b) track the average view duration (total watch time divided by number of views). Again this is not easy to track (maybe impossible) in a decentralized manner (you wouldn't want to spam the Steem blockchain and drain your RC by submitting a tx every few seconds while watching a video).
I prefer not to see if anyone is watching my videos at all, or how people are watching them. On YouTube where I have a lot of analytical data, I can get very disappointed when the analytics don't look good which happens to me all the time until I abandon YouTube completely for DTube, where the number of upvotes, and the payout is the only known performance data. I will always be happy that someone is giving me upvotes that is worth something and not worry about views at all, rather than having views data that can discourage me from posting if the view counts are not good enough to me.
I see your point, but analytics is the only way to tell whether or not people think you suck or are good. And thus analytics is the only true path to improvement.
If you're fine not knowing whether or not your videos are complete garbage, that's you. But I'd rather know what makes a good video and what doesn't.
When I saw your reply, I wanted to send you all my savings in cryptocurrency, haha!
You're fantastic and you understand my argument! 👍💪💯
I think some form of analytics would be beneficial overall to content creators. While the up votes are great and I want to keep earning those I would love to know if/that people are still watching my videos despite the up votes too.
Thank you for your analysis on the view aspect of the YouTube videos, but my point is not to eradicate the upvotes count but to introduce the views count in order to determine what video or content stays on the most watched/trending page of dtube platform.
It is really sad to see some contents on dtube platform get upvoted due to some factors and in the technical aspect of it the vlog doesn't worth it. (Nb: posting a video on dtube is not an automatic guarantee for upvote).
Nevertheless, this shit happens because the community (we, content creators and contributors) isn't at the helm of deciding which video(s) deserve the most views. If views are implemented on the platform, it will eradicate such menace and make the curation work for dtube much easier.
I checked your profile on dtube and I was shocked you could say this?
Really?, you haven't understand the basic principle that exist on this blockchain. Let's delve into the writing content, why do you think people boost their post/contents?
I will let you answer that, but I quite understand that there are several rationale but the most important reason is for VISIBILITY. Meanwhile, on the dtube platform, visibility equals to VIEWS not the cash. So, if you are not interested in people's feedback, why create a content, a vlog or blog initially?
I don't think you have a good point here my friend. Cheers!
I remember mentioning somewhat the same thing to a degree. My though was instead of a view counter on each video including a minutes watched or views counter on the profile page to show overall watch time. May work or it may not.
Yes! I think this would help get rid of the people bucking the system that don’t care about making good quality content
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Not only that it will help reduce spammed vlogs and undervalued videos, it will help fooster the bond and engagement between contributors and creators on the platform. 💪
Exactly, the more I think about it the more I like this idea 😀
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YES, my dear your suggestion right here will enhance the participation of content creators and contributors on the dtube platform. You right said my dear, We should focus on good video and not focus on upvoting . My dear I think good quality content is very important for us
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Youtube is using view count not ad revenue as metric for a reason. Yea prolly just stick to the formula and disrupt one thing at a time.
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Youtube is using view count not ad revenue as metric for a reason. Yea prolly just stick to the formula and disrupt one thing at a time.
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For me it shouldn't because if dtube gets view system like YouTube than most of us will don't do hardwork and will upload unworthy contents I'm not pointing out anyone.
In upvote system everyone knows that we will get upvote only if we will make good or valuable content. So, for me upvote system is best :)
View system will improve and enhance human contribution towards the platform. Not only that, it has a way of making the creators be on their toes.
How about if you explain this to me, a well shot and edited video and dtube didn't upvote it. Does that still butteress your point above?
Here are the videos: (https://steemit.com/dappcentral/@mediahousent/oh8gctzk)
(https://steemit.com/vlog/@mediahousent/cyvfovki)
it is not showing view count because it is less depressing to not know that 2 people watched the video than knowing that 2 people watched the video :D
Agreed on that. Steemit.com condenser used to show view counts but they're removed.
I completely agree with this, views are a big deal on YouTube so why not here. I would post more if I knew people were actually watching, upvotes are mostly on autopilot and if it was not the case most would not have anyviews tho. Just saying, I watch dtube all day long but how do they know that if I dont upvote it comment. And I cant upvote everyone even tho I may want to. Anyway thanks for your suggestions on this... be well and dtube on...
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Firstly, sorry for the late response as I am just going through the 'dtubesnapq' tag and I thought I would participate in your question/proposal too.
It would be an interesting concept to have a 'views' counter as I would be intrigued to see those who are quite well-known on the platform how their 'views to payout' ratio relates. Just out of curiosity and not out of spite (to see who games the system (reward pool)). It is known and we know many 'top Steemians' receive autovotes from other users (there is nothing wrong with that) and thus this can give a true reflection on the state of DTube engagement and payouts. Ultimately this can determine, where is and what is 'value' on the Steem blockchain? Yet, that's my two cents.