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RE: Sesame Street introduces new brain damaged muppet that has autism
Had to drop this off here, you probably know about it already:
http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/docs/ThimerosalScandalFINAL.PDF
Had to drop this off here, you probably know about it already:
http://www.robertfkennedyjr.com/docs/ThimerosalScandalFINAL.PDF
thanks for the info.
And while we're at it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_Haley
Mr Haley is the actual author of the paper you just linked, so it seemed important to vet the source.
He also asserts that dental fillings cause Alzheimer's.
Just sayin
While were at it, just saying of course, this study from 2014 denounces the mechanism by which we gain immunity, aka antibodies and how they work.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4160575/
So fuck vaccines there and then, regardless that they have been a scientific fraud for over 200 years, care to ask me for sources before you try to discredit the source itself and not the data?
That means the opposite of what you believe it means.
To simplify this for you, it's saying that you can't use the existence of a specific antigen to prove that someone has or does not have a disease because the interaction between antigens and disease agents can be a lot more complicated than a simple lock meets a key that we believed previously.
In otherwords a single antibody could be useful against multiple infectious agents, and the presence of a particular antibody does not necessarily indicate the specific was ever present. Furthermore there may be multiple antibodies involved in the control and cleanup of infectious agents.
Yes duh, and how many vaccines have been developed based on that flase narative? Can you read at all
Let me BLOW IT UP FOR YOU
However, antibody–antigen interactions are much more complex and unpredictable than suggested by the old ‘lock and key’ analogy, and the goal of trying to prove that an antibody is specific is far more difficult than is generally appreciated.
Where did you get that you fool?! Where did you get that it could be useful against multiple infectious agents you utter fool, when they cannot predict how it acts PERIOD. Do you even realize that you lack the reading comprehension to recognize IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT doesn't mean BENEFITS et ALL!
You posted a article proving that mercury in filling is pretty much causing all kinds of problems, and called it asserting!
WHAT A MORON!
Why don't you prove that ONE vaccine is efficacious, don't you want my almost 500 steem all earned from comments, and let me reiterate this one more time, PROVE ONE VACCINE AS EFFICACIOUS.
Forgot to mention that the study he published was not reproducable and later discredited.
I was asked "where did he assert that", and responded with a link where i verified his assertion.
Again with calling names because someone might be able to demonstrate your internal narrative is false. Have you ever asked yourself why that is?
As for the assertion about a single anti-body being INDICATIVE of multiple infectious agents...
It was a valid reading of the abstract of the paper you linked, not an assertion of my own.
The study absolutely is refuting the idea that was posited by you that the antigen system is useless or that we cannot engineer immunity. It's just saying that it's more complicated than anticipated. My rewording was an attempt to try and figure out how you were coming to your conclusion. Countering non-sense with non-sense, my apologies if you had a hard time following. Sarcasm isn't my strong suit.
The evidence for the efficacy of vaccinations is OVERWHELMING! How many people die each year of smallpox for example? How many children are vaccinated against Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Polio etc and still come down with the disease? These were killers just a generation or so ago.
Almost without exception the only children coming down with any of these ailments are children of the anti-vaxers who buy into the fear porn from peddlers of magical remedies based on things like RAT POISON?
Come on ask yourself who benefits from this anti-vax craze? Only the people who genuinely fail at critical thinking and want to sell snake oil to guillable parents. Meanwhile you can look around you and see the benefits of vaccination on society as the rate of polio and other diseases that were the scourge of humanity for thousands of years are pushed ever further to the fringes.
A whole industry of vaccinations and HIV testing has been thoroughly debunked by this study, because the method they ASSERTED that it works like this, HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO WORK LIKE THAT, WHICH THEN IS SCIENTIFIC FRAUD, A LIE, and you MORON, IDIOT wants to assert that an antibody can actually fight multiple infectious agents now! LUDICROUS!
@baah - for such a critical thinker I am EXTREMELY disappointed to look into your wallet and see a mere $89!! Do you generate ANY content on Steemit at all? (Or merely lazily press the Resteem button ALL DAY and spit venom everywhere??) Man up! and start contributing buddy!!
Your turning into a whingeing mangina!!
Lol. I am totally with you on this subject...just wouldn't bother calling people morons and idiots for their unfortunate faith in a system of lies. Yelling at people about these things truly doesn't do anything except make them more stubborn about their positions, they'll be so bent on debating you, the debate itself will lose all meaning. That's of course, if you truly do care about changing people's perspectives.
I understand the urge to grab someone by the shoulders and shake them while shouting Wake the fuck up! But that urge is driven more by ego than by actually caring whether or not they do. Because it doesn't work. Ever.
There is one thing that works, and that is empathy. When you can empathize with someone's position, you can speak to them in a way that they may actually listen to you. One hundred percent empathy is probably the highest frequency we can reach on this plane of existence. Just some food for thought.
@mindhunter
Go through my comments, one comment made me almos $8 2 weeks ago when the price was in the gutter, and I have made 99% of my steem from commenting. Add that to the fact that assholes like fyrstikken love to put their autoflag bots on my account especially when I am adding to the discussion and not just contribuiting but dropping knowledge that leaves most speachless and in a state of "wow". I debated vaccines with @whitezombie, he has been absent from contribuiting since, only a couple days ago he has started chiming in, if you look at the discussion you will see that it thoroughly sparked him to question everything. The same has happened with another users and vaccines, he has thoroughly changed his positions and went from posting Wikipedia iron lungs articles to questioning the safety of vaccines to right now, where I don't think he gives any kind of validity to vaccinations or the theory behind it.
Do I generate ANY content on steem, I have been here since december and have a tenth of your posts, I don't post articles but comment, and not to say you don't post a lot of great stuff, but if you go through my comment you will see most are considerably long, some dwarf most posts, and all of it is factual and or experience based, not opinion or conjecture. Look at it.
I also took on the liar and constant classism denier and ever zionist boot licker @orenshani7, I post my damning proof of him lying on all his posts, that is what I consider contributing to the platform.
I discuss anything from anarchy to cannabis to art and history, I share articles in my comments pertinent to the topics that will undoubtedly make the posters and others contribute in turn by absorbing those articles and generating content from that information. I am also constantly on the new topic page and comment on everything I can there, adding both value and information to topics I find interesting or that reverberate with myself.
@dreemit
I understand, and it's not my objective to change anybody's perspective, only to challenge it, and if that means calling them asshole, or moron, or retard or any other name I will, you and mindhunter both know that I don't do that, I don't go off on people period. If you observe the exchange between me and white zombie you will see how much leeway and consideration I had given, but when you act like a imbecile I won't restrain myself from saying so.
If you take the information and twist it to fit your agenda you will suffer my wrath, no matter how cordial you try to appear,I attend to the truth: Nobody that discredits hundreds of studies and offers no evidence to back up their claims is a buddha mind, all my insults and my damning reasoning will in turn react and beat him down, NO EMPATHY FOR MY ENEMY, hence why he has not been able to simply ignore the insults and such, like a buddha mind would, and move onto the data, hence why he has addressed the petty insults because he cares and they matter. And that is the truth, had he been indifferent to my "projections" I wouldn't have even poked my finger in that gaping wound of caring what others think about you on the internet, so it is a service I am doing by calling him moron, idiot, retard, I don't extend empathy to such an enemy
I followed through:
And left his rear open to retreat, asking him to bring forth the evidence for the discredit he claimed
Anybody that attacks the sources while posting wikipedia articles is nothing more than an idiot that doesn't question and touts the party line happily and a hypocrite, as no matter how much he claims that he gives a fuck about vaccines being bad, in the end he asserts they do more good than bad, that is HYPOCRISY, no need to change his mind, only to shit all over his person, all over his data and not once attack his sources. He still cannot come to terms with the fact that the mechanism that immunity was thought to be achieved through is both unpredictable and impossible to determine but completely shatters the previously held baseless assertion of lock and key for which there have been books and studies and whole careers devoted to simply point out that antibodies haven't been isolated and that there was no proof of antibodies working like it was supposed: they fight infection, and those books get scrubbed from wikipedia and the internet in general that is why they are found in just a few repositories like whale.to and renes.
Empathy, being humble and other virtues all have their place, they are not something that can be applied to situations universally, all I have done is a service to truth, it is true that I insulted him, but I meant it, and it is true that he lied and distorted information, hence why I called him a liar and repeatedly stated the facts counter to his distortions. That is service that cannot be measured outside my invaluable time and what amounts to a waste of his both time and efforts as he is both a hypocrite, a liar and all the pronouns that I pinned on him like medals and badges.
@baah - I just wish you could channel some of your critical thinking comments into posts. You add value here, but choose not to share it to a wider audience. Who reads all these great War and Peace comments?? A small fraction of the audience compared to those who read my philosophy articles ... and some of your comments are longer than my posts! Why not leave yourself open to critical analysis for a change??
If you retooled your game on here, your reputation would rise and you might make a few $'s with a bigger audience. I follow no man on here, but if you became a real content writer on here I might just have to change my mind. Good day to you @baah
@mindhunter
I plan on doing that, I just don't have the time to devote to that endeavor, this is more or less a hobby now, but I am in the process of working my 2.7 acres, and that's where I NEED to spend my effort on. Besides that I just took on editing and updating the whitepaper.
The real problem is that I am always making excuses to come onto steemit to read and add my thoughts, that's the hard to admit truth :(, even now I just finished a turtle trap, it's just a distraction but I will tell you I am trying to catch the ones in my pond/lake to move them in with my ducks and eventually in the smaller pond, but what I should have been doing is closing up the last bit of fence and after that cleaning up the trees I have left lying around, and the reason I'm not doing what needs done is I let myself got sucked into that after my aunt from italy saw my wife pull a nice 2-3 pound large mouth bass when I was skyping her to show her the proprety, granted she was only messing around and didn't expect anything (as usual for newbs) it gave me the bug and spent 15 minutes fishing to no avial and then had to distract myself from that fruitless endeavor after the bass jumped out of the 5 gal bucket right as she was calling for me :/, and went on to put together a turtle trap, which was minimal effort and an excuse for not doing the stoopid fence :/.
Let me simplify it for you, Until 20 minutes ago you were not aware of that study, I just threw you a royal flush and you are trying to call it at best a pair of 3's. Are you demented, where do you get off asserting that NONSENSE, now after 100+ years of supposing that antibodies work like this without one shred of evidence, without having even isolated them for DECADES before they asserted it works like a lock and key, does it say that they are responsible for fighting off multiple infectious agents you idiot? You simplified a study I have been aware of for 3 years now? I pointed out the pertinent part and you sought to minimize it by playing up assertions and not blowing up this part:
We discuss the increasing awareness that significant numbers of commercial antibodies are often not up to the quality required
Even I feel schooled. LOL
Here's a good laugh.
I'll even do you one better, you have any proof that vaccines work/are efficacious and I will donate all my steem to you, well I'll let you have my password to the account and do as you will. Because it seems we have another "just saying, this guy is a fraud because wikipedia, and vaccines do work, sometimes", so let me reiterate it one more time, ANY VACCINE being efficacious.
Well here's a start...
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm
It's well sourced with lots of citations. I hope that's enough to show you, but somehow I doubt it will be.
What are you just saying?
Did you verify if what he said about dental fillings is true or why it isn't?
He also asserts..
PHLEAZE.
Yep I did!
https://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/02/Sep02/091602/80027dd5.pdf
Did you read the study? It concludes that and I snip for you:
Asserting is not backed up by facts and damning facts at that. So much for asserting, more like PROVES.
Again, you asked...
I verified that
A) HE did in fact say those things and
B) It was debunked and dismissed as non-reproducable.
Bad science is bad science. You go ahead and believe whatever you want, but I'm going to go with following studies and the results of scientific inquiry.
@williambanks everyone hear debunks you. I guess that means you're an idiot right?
debunked and proven false using clinical trials are two different things