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RE: Bots and Manual Curation idea

in #utopian-io8 years ago

No, no, no.

While I understand the idea and where it comes from, heck I even find the reasoning behind it acceptable, captchas are one of the worst possible UX solutions in existing.

Worse even is using reCaptcha which is a Google owned and operated service and each reCaptcha solved further improves the Borg's AI and deep learning. Don't feed the data leech any further. Any input made to the Borg can, and eventually will, be used against your own data.

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It need not be captcha per se. With all the smart coders, a similar solution could be implemented relatively easily that is Steem owned and operated.

What if the votes that interact directly with the blockchain (bots) received a lower reward than those that solve a captcha?

Rewards are “in consensus”, that is to say, they are calculated by the rules of the blockchain itself.

Anything owned and operated by a single party cannot be “in consensus” without centralizing the control of the funds on the blockchain. That, for obvious reasons, won’t happen.

Forgive my lack of technical knowledge but does this mean that there is no way to differentiate rewards between bots/human? Or does this mean that it requires a Hardfork?

I remember there being talk for a different pool for comment voting, couldn't the same done for bots where they have access to a greatly limited pool so the more bots, the lower the reward?

If only the big issues of the Internet were as simple to solve. There is a reason why reCaptcha became the default. Because in UX it is the least evil of all.

Yet, logging in to Bittrex takes me on average 20 seconds more than it should when I'm not using a first world VPN IP. Because the invisible reCaptcha is highly elusive. For most of the world it's two levels of 'click all the squares with...', or two words from blurry pictures.

All other captchas have long been broken by bots or constantly defeat users. The latter which reCaptcha also excelled at until some time around 2014/15 btw. Facebook's captcha also constantly beats users btw.

There are hundreds of startups who have tried, and failed, to come up with a solution which is not a burden on the user, and isn't defeated. reCaptcha is the least evil, except that it is Borg owned and operated, and milked.

If some smart coders have a solution better than reCaptcha, they shall message me and demo it to me and I will have them acquired by one of the behemoths and make them really, really rich. Triple digit millions rich.

Even the most rudimentary of solutions will defeat the current bots and this at least buys some time and likely as they evolve, so does the price of deployment. So perhaps it will at least make a higher cost of entry into the bot market for a lower return. Seems that not many of the smart people are coming up with any practical ideas at all so it us left to layman like myself to try.

Let me know how that worked for you.

Keep in mind though that not everybody is willing to pay those 2 seconds. Any user lost because of it is a fail. I hope the layman can solve a years old conundrum.

When you do, same as for smart devs, hit me up and I will make you a very rich man. No costs/fees involved. I love seeing success.

You will have to come up with something absolutely amazing, and square peg/round hole thing tho. Anything less than that has been done and dusted already.

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