This is a topic that we have discussed here at Cedarville. The general consensus seems to be that a basic income could be a good thing if we use it to make ourselves more self sufficient. You cannot buy solar panels or seeds or batteries without money, so the money is necessary to start. Its a sad fact. That seems to be what the community thinks.

It seems that a basic income could be useful in giving people a step up and allowing them to start on their path to self governance and self sufficiency, however if it used in other ways then it obviously would create a lot of dependence on that money and therefore on the government or state.

One thing that pops into my mind is that in the ideal world people should be able to live comftorably without working their asses off to survive, and this would allow people to pursue what really interests them and contribute to the world in very valuable ways. In this case, maybe a basic income could help, but at the same time in this ideal world maybe people would not need money to live at all!

Before I started to really read what you were saying @wwf, I was thinking that basic income sounds like a pretty good idea. It would keep everyone from being homeless and starving at least. Now, I think I know better.

People would become doubly reliant on the state as it is now. I do not think as it is now people would be responsible-thinking enough to pour these government given resources into freedom. Maybe a few would join us, but there would they stop accepting those payments?

And what about the requirements for getting this government given income? Who would get it, you would definately need to prove that you are poor and canadian, and would they allow it to go towards solar panels and seeds? What would that require of us? I think that quite a few poor people would be desperate enough to agree to pretty much any conditions if that meant they could live well and not struggle to survive, even my own mom would probably. If it meant that she did not have to work 2 jobs to pay rent, then she would probably sign on that with strings attatched. It would probably be created with the idea of dependence built in!

So, what is the solution then, if everyone still needs money to survive but they don't want to get it from the government and they don't want to work at an evil corperation to get it? What if they are not lucky enough to have land or resources or opportunity?

I think at this point the people, and not the state, should step in. What if people independently pooled their resources to help lift people out of this state dependent state, with no strings attatched?

We basically will be pooling our resources for the same purpose if the government goes through with this, except in the form of tax and with many strings attatched! This seemingly simple solution of a basic income is not going to solve the issues we are facing as society, it probably will just exasperate them!

The solution might just be independently organized and built on the foundations of a giving economy and self-governence. Steemit might even be part of the solution, because on here life is content! Could we use decentralized blockchain technology to lift people out of poverty and servitude?

Honestly the solution needs a lot of thought, because at this point the problems we are facing is complicated. Basic income is not going to solve the real issues, just make them stronger. Basic income is too basic lol. We need to independently organize solutions using our own genius, and not rely on the state to solve these issues of poverty by creating more dependence, and in essense, more poverty of spirit.