Press conference on Ukrainian war crimes against Donbass people

patricklancaster (58)in #ukraine • 7 years ago

Press conference on Ukrainian war crimes against Donbass people Filmed 01.25.2017
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Full English transcript below:
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Hello,colleagues!
I introduce the participants in Donetsk and Lugansk.

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In Donetsk the ombudsman in the DPR Daria Morozova

Hello

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The deputies of the National Council of the DPR Miroslav Rudenko and Vladimir Bidyovka
-Hello

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and Elena Shishkina. She is an advocate, the member of the collection and recording of war crimes by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donbass commission

Hello

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I would like to say that Alexander Hug stated that OSCE SMM fixed 478 victims of the conflict in 2017. There are 86 people killed and 392 injured. Do you agree with this numbers or you have another numbers?

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Donetsk, please. Who will start?
Let me do it
Daria, please

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Hello dear journalists, dear colleagues
It's true, the numbers are usually very different especially with the reports of OSCE.

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We work very close with the United Nations Human Rights Council. If we are not agree with the numbers we usually meet the head of the mission in Ukraine Fiona Frazer.

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We usually discuss the statements we don't agree with

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Right now I would like to give an information not only from the last report but from the previous reports. I want to talk about the situation in Donbass and in Ukraine

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Last year in Kiev the government didn't care much about the human rights. Authorities use many different antidemocratic practices

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I am sorry I am very nervous.This is such an important topic for us
...to destroy the main freedoms

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In 2017 the Minsk agreements were violated. Thereby the constant threat was made for the civilians and for the infrastructure as well

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The Government of Ukraine bring to responsibility no one for the events that took place in Donbass and in Kiev

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It says in the report that a government of Ukraine made several steps in 2017 to reduce the freedoms like а freedom of expression, freedom of opinion, freedom of mass media and freedom of association

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In march 2017 the new law against anti-corruption activists was adopted. Reports says that Ukraine authorities didn't make any steps in investigating the work of MIROTVORETS web-site.

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You know there are many people from the DPR and LPR, citizens of the Russian Federation and other countries.

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We are trying to ask them to start any investigation, not only we are. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights tries too but no steps were made.

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No one was brought to account for the tortures, non-official detain and other violation in the conflict contexts.

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The heads of the Ukrainian Security Service despite of the witnesses statements didn't admit the non -official detain and violent disappearing. The investigations started by the Military Procuracy didn't bring any results.

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You know that on 27 th of December we had a long-aviated exchange. We are having conversations with the ex-POWs and we are documenting all the tortures they've passed through.

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The minimum that the detained person spent in the dungeons of USS was 6 month. Some people spent there 3-4 years.

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Thanks to the collaboration with the United Nations Human Rights Council we could find out a secret prison 1.5 year ago.

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13 people were set free from there

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According to the interviews with released people we know that on the Ukrainian side there is a secret prisons practice.

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We are trying to make an interview with the ex-POWs with the UN, OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross representatives to document this.

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We understand that there are not much International society reaction. You can have a free access to all our reports, everyone can take a look.

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I would like to tell how Kiev react on these reports

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I watch the interviews and Kiev refers to these reports but the phrases are taken out of context and they show them in a good ways for themselves. They don't show the essence of the Donbass conflict

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Thank you
Thanks very much. I guess we need to give a speech to Elena

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Your public organization are fixing war crimes during three years and sending the cases to the European Court of Human Rights

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I want to ask you what interim results are you fixing now?

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It's true that on the territory of the DPR from the very beginning of the war conflict there is the commission of the collection and recording of war crimes by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donbass

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I would like to tell you what is the commission and what is the difference between our commission and the government organizations in the DPR and LPR

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The commission of the collection and recording of war crimes by the Ukrainian authorities in the Donbass is some kind of an intelligence center.

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There are specialists in the field of law, criminalistics, ballistics and other citizens of our territory.This is a public, the representatives of a civil society

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What is the main target of our commission? It's a fixation of a war crimes, crimes against humanity on the Donbass territory.

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It's fixing and sending the materials to the International Criminal Court and European Court of Human Rights

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The international organizations are fixing the Kiev authorities' crimes, but we are facing the Ukraine politics which is directed to the public and mass-media.

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They give fake news. The part of our commission’s work is to inform the word public, to give its true information and facts

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I would like to talk about the results of work of our commission

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In total our specialist sent 585 materials which are fixed and formalized in an appropriate way to the International Criminal Court.

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There are annexes with the expert opinions who used the criminalistics methods to establish the directions for artillery shelling

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I would like to focus on this

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On the 27th of October 2016 the crime were made on the DPR territory. The heavy artillery shelling took place

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We have one expert-ballist in our commission. On the basis of scientifically based methodology he determined the direction of the shell. It was from the Ukraine's territory

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The conclusions of our commission were introduced in Minsk. The conclusions of the OSCE Mission and our expert are the same. In our case the conclusions are more detailed.

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So 585 cases are sent. I want to say about the reactions of the International Criminal Court.

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We have answer on 332 cases. We have materials from the criminal prosecutor that the cases are under the studying

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This is our big victory because we began from one answer. The cases weren't accepted from us in 2015 and now we have 332 registrated cases

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The information about numbers of the victims from the Ukrainian actions. The UN and OSCE reports give underestimate numbers. The categories are bad qualificated.

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Our commission fixed that from August 2014 there were more than 1500 appeal sent to European Court of Human Rights

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From December 2016 to December 2017 our commission fixed 272 episodes of crimes against humanity and war crimes

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As the result 437 people are sufferer, 141 of them are minors, 36 died, 105 were injured and 404 adults from which 158 died, 246 were injured

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Can you repeat these numbers?
Yes,of course

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To the International Criminal Court 585 materials were send
NO, I mean the European Court of Human Rights

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From December 2016 to December 2017 the 272 episodes of war crimes were fixed. As the result 437 sufferer,141 of them are minors, 36 died, 105 were injured. From 404 adults 158 died, 246 were injured

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I would like to notice that these are not the numbers of victims. These are the numbers of materials which we've sent to the International Criminal Court and European Court of Human Rights.

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The numbers of the victims are much more higher

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The population of the DPR want to help us very much. They come to us and give voluntarily explanations and evidences. We ask them about the war crimes.

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Before in the very beginning of a war people react different. But now it's an active civic position and people want to bring responsibles to justice

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During the whole conflict on the DPR territory 4572 people died, 605 of them are women, 3967 men, 76 children.

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From the 1st of January to 31st of December 2017 595 people were injured on the DPR territory. 14 children are among them.

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From the 1st of January to 31st of December 278 people died, 2 of them are children. Thank you

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The question is for Daria Morozova. Not so long time ago the plans about the POWs exchange were voiced.

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May be you have approximate numbers of the people you'll exchange? What are the terms?

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Unfortunately the POW exchange on the 27 th of December wasn't the exchange all to all.

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We can't do it until the end of a conflict, before the 5th paragraph of the Minsk agreement will be accepted.

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This paragraph is about the prohibition of a the pursuit and the amnesty of the ones who took part in the Donbass conflict.

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We made and exchange but the arrests are continuing I want to say about the non-extradition of the foreign citizens, it's about Russian citizens.

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The list was approved by the heads of Republic and supported by the Russian's president and Patriarch Kirill. We are grateful for their support and work.

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All the people from the list had to be exchanged. These foreign citizens that weren't given back, they are mostly from Russian Federation.

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We have cases where the citizens of the other countries like Brazil, Afghanistan were given back into the embassies

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We require to send this people to our territory or to the Russian Embassy. Why was this exchange organized?

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There was a category of already convicted people. They wrote a petition on Poroshenko's name to pardon them.

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For those people who were under the pre-trial preventive measure was changed to the home arrest

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When they pass the line they won’t have any possibility to go back to Ukraine. One of the main condition in Minsk was the returning of the documents to the POW

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But the documents weren't returned back

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We see no difficulties to do the next stage of the exchange.
We are calling the Ukrainian side to the dialogue

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I believe we can exchange people within a month

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Right now we want to take all that are confirm.They are 80 people.They were 84. We had correspondence with Mr Medvedchuk yesterday

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He sent proves that 4 people were set free. We agree, we want to have a dialogue

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So we took away these four people and now we have 80 people to take back

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The reports of the UN, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross are the base for us

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We wil certainly meet in Hague the respondents who are guilty in this war. War crimes do not have a statute of limitations

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