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I have to agree @fraenk. Considering the problem is that governments are lying to us, in order to gain more power over us, how likely is it that government legislation will protect us?

Is it possible, just possible, that any such legislation might instead further subject us to propaganda, and make rejecting and opposing it more difficult, even illegal? I see that is what is happening across EU now, making 'fake news' illegal.

Except by fake news, they mean the truth.

Consider how that is being used in China, where dissidents have a special ring you hear when you call them, or they call you on the phone. Where they can't buy plane tickets, or participate in various other market endeavors. Employers aren't encouraged to hire them. This is the model the EU is following, and WhatsApp, owned by Fakebook, is now going to show a special badge when users access information that Fakebook doesn't like. Fakebooks own anti-fake news program recently failed when people found items Fakebook deemed fake news to be more likely to be true.

Look at propaganda campaigns in the past, during times of war. Demonization, dehumanization, and slaughter of people was openly and blatantly conducted. Look at recent psyops, like the Bana Alabed story, or the al Sabah claim that Iraqis threw babies on the floor to steal incubators when they were selling WMDs in Iraq so they could invade it and cause what is happening there now.

It is also obvious that the destruction of Iraq wasn't the endgame. Killing Saddam Hussein and destroying the Sunni power of Iraq left the power open for the Shi'a of Iran to seize. Now the same is done in Syria. Why are they handing power over a large swath of the ME over to Iran, their avowed enemy?

Is it possible that Iran wasn't a powerful enough enemy to justify a really profitable war? Libya was the highest standard of living in Africa before 2011, and had been the lowest in the world in 1951. What Gaddafi had done since his investiture there was great for Libyans - and thus very, very bad for banksters.

The endgame isn't in sight. The current conditions in Iraq, Syria, and Libya are probably just stepping stones towards it, from where they were prior to destruction, among the most habitable and prosperous places people could live, to where the banksters want us all.

Clearly the open slave markets in Libya, if considered merely a waypoint on the way to the endgame desired by the banksters, are utterly chilling in that context.

Legislation isn't what we need more of.

What we need more of is the truth.

We won't get it from them.

I appreciate your comments but do not agree that governments are 100% evil. I know that this is the prevailing conversation in many circles but thy actually do some good. Yes they do a lot of evil too. But are they inherently evil? I study history an cannot say that this is factual. Every system of managing will have its benefits and drawbacks and be greatly influenced by those people who must implement that system over time.

The US constitution is an amazing document, and gets a lot of things right. It is also the most copied formed of governing in the world because of its power. It also problem solves and set up a system of problem solving that is nothing short of brilliant. The challenge is that it makes the assumption that any document would and that is that the people will approach it with a inherent desire to implement it and not manipulate it for their own purposes.

Things fall apart when this happens and we discover the weaknesses of any system. So it is not the system of government. but the people who are the issue. I say this because whatever system that is implemented you will have people operating it. I know the argument about anarchy, but anarchy as a system cannot last. It can for a short period but humans seek leaders. This has been proven over time. It is in our DNA.

With this in mind, the issue I addressed about legislation is very relevant and needed. DO I trust people to back away on their own? No. In many cases they cannot back away. and with AI coming it will get nearly impossible to back away even with critical thinking skills. Like it or not, there has to be intervention. And that intervention must be laws prohibiting companies from doing certain things.

Finally, this conversation about *them" and "they" in terms of the government does not resonate with me. I am not sure where you live but in America the "them" and "they" are actually us and we. We are the government and if we do not like our representation, it is up to us to change it. And the great news is that we can. Thanks.

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Woah! Amen brother!

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