Yeah, I kind of diverge w/people like Larken when they say there is no point to attempting to use the state govts. to resist federal tyranny...or even running for federal office on a platform of dissolving the federal union (as I've heard Adam Kokesh plans to do in 2020).

How much better off would we be now had the South managed to secede? How much better will the UK be when they secede from the EU? Having one less layer of govt. to deal with is a plus imo...