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RE: Ruminating on and idea about power generation on trains

in #trains5 years ago

The problem with that is the power input from the locomotive would usually far exceed the gains from the axle generators. That said, there may be room for additional regenerative breaking beyond that of the locomotive itself when descending mountain grades. But that also requires a storage method, and batteries are heavy.

An idea that may uave more meritnis using the flexing rails as the cars pass over them to generate power. I don't know whatbthe cost/benefit analysis would be, but that is a potential source of energy that adds no burden to the transportation system.

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Would essentially just be replacing ties with ones that are generators. It would probably be a bit tricky to build something that could withstand the stress and not need a ton of maintenance.

Maybe something like a flywheel in a tie shaped container that is spun with every flex of the rail, spinning it up so that it is able to produce power a while after the train has passed until it's momentum runs out and it waits for the next train to spin it up. It would not be a constant supply to a network unless there was a constant run of the ties.

But that would be interesting to have since a train traveling across country would help put power into the local grid as it moves.

There are also materials that generate an electrical charge when flexed. I heard there were experiments a while back, but I suspect the cost was prohibitive or distribution back into the grid was a pain.

Piezo. The flex of a crystal makes an electrical charge. It just doesn't make a lot of power.

I am running down the line of the fly wheel in my head though. Since most times the engines are in the lead on the freight trains there is a large weight but I am not sure if that out weighs a fully loaded cargo car. But that heavy weight at the start of a strain with 100 cars and 4 engines would be able to start a fly wheel moving. Then there would be a total of 432 axles adding speed to the fly wheel which would then be able to spin. With the width of a track there could even be 4 or 6 fly wheels all powered through gears or fluid.

Hmm... a hydraulic system... That could provide a means of reducing maintenance.

I keep coming back to fly wheels because they are essentially a battery in themselves as long as they have rotational momentum. Since the tie would be solidly on the ground it would be able to handle the spin of the fly wheel inside. Plus having fly wheels rotate opposite directions could counteract the croc roll effect.

hmmm....

Hydraulics are a good option for ease of assembly and maintenance. Perhaps pushing a fluid through a turbine-like device to generate power would be feasible, too.

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