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RE: Treating Cancer with Apricot Kernels

in #teamnz6 years ago

Come on, don't spread lies and bullshit. People might fall for it. Where to start...

First, there has already been clinical trials of amygdalin (Laetrile) since the 80s and found that indeed there was no benefit observed. Here is the link to the trial in a peer reviewed journal https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7033783

Also, here is a review study where comparing different studies in literature review concluded that there is no convincing evidence that amygdalin pas positive effects on cancer patientes.
http://www.eurekaselect.com/154430/article

You listed the book Naturally Occurring Glycosides and copy pasted the resume content from the Wiley website (by the way the link is wrong here it is the correct one)
https://www.wiley.com/en-nl/Naturally+Occurring+Glycosides-p-9780471986027

I don't know if the information is correct as I do not own the book but here is a multiple articles review on Cyanogenic glycosides in ScienceDirect stating the toxicity and no effect on cancer treatment
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/cyanogenic-glycosides

Edward Griffin was a writer not a doctor, or scientist, or researcher.
Did not cared to look further than that here is his wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin

You make the statement "Laetrile has a specific cancer preventive and controlling effect"
where is your proof backing it up. I tried to look for a publication by Dean Burk related to his study but I could not find one (please if you have it I would like to read it).

Phillip Day also is not educated in medicine or science, he is a sales and marketing guy. He also has not published in a peer reviewed journal about his findings.

Please don't spread false information that can harm someone.

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It's not lies & bullshit. It is an ALTERNATIVE VIEWPOINT of the MAINSTREAM MEDICAL SYSTEM. A Viewpoint which happens to be backed up by VALID Research & Evidence.

And if the MAINSTREAM MEDICAL Establishment which is CONTROLLED in Large Part by the Corporate Pharmaceutical Drug Companies is 100% Correct about cancer and ABOUT HOW TO MAINTAIN HUMAN HEALTH-

then why are more people today sicker than ever? Why are more people today DYING of cancer? I've personally known several people- more than 5 less than 10, that have had advanced cancers. The ones who went with mainstream medicine of CUT, POISON, BURN- all died quicker & had a lower quality of life from their MAINSTREAM medical treatments.

Everyday more & more reports come out in MAINSTREAM SCIENCE & MEDICAL PUBLICATIONS that CHEMOTHERAPY MAY do more harm than good.

Providing information is not spreading fake news. People are ADULTS. As such they can research & decide what is best for themselves. The better question is - why do YOU & why does the MAJORITY of the Mainstream Establishment TRY TO PREVENT any Alternative Information to be presented at all? That is CENSORSHIP.

Usually those that engage in Censorship have SOMETHING TO HIDE or something to protect.

What could the Mainstream Medical system have to hide?- that other cures exist? what could they have to protect- their MONOPOLY & Their BILLIONS IN PROFITS $$$$$$.

WHO the F-ck are YOU- to decide WHAT information I or any other ADULT is allowed to read?

Bugger of jackass.

"A Viewpoint which happens to be backed up by VALID Research & Evidence"
Then please show me, anecdotal evidence is not valid when there is not a significant baseline number of people who benefits from the treatment.

"then why are more people today sicker than ever? Why are more people today DYING of cancer? I've personally known several people- more than 5 less than 10, that have had advanced cancers"
Indeed cancer cases are increasing, i never said that is not true. We are sicker due to poor diet, increase use of pesticides in agricultural fields, hormones in meat, and less physical activity.

"Everyday more & more reports come out in MAINSTREAM SCIENCE & MEDICAL PUBLICATIONS that CHEMOTHERAPY MAY do more harm than good."
I never discussed about chemotherapy in my last reply. If you are interested in my point of view, indeed chemotherapy is basically poisoning your body to kill cancer cells/tumors and is a race between who dies first, the cancer or you. Sometimes works others it doesn't.

"Providing information is not spreading fake news. People are ADULTS. As such they can research & decide what is best for themselves. The better question is - why do YOU & why does the MAJORITY of the Mainstream Establishment TRY TO PREVENT any Alternative Information to be presented at all? That is CENSORSHIP"
Am I censoring you? I didn't say you should delete your post and I didn't asked others to ignore it. However, I am challenging your post, and backing my comments with factual research done on this topic.

"What could the Mainstream Medical system have to hide?- that other cures exist? what could they have to protect- their MONOPOLY & Their BILLIONS IN PROFITS $$$$$$"
You really went on a tangent there, i never mentioned mainstream medical system. My point of view, there is a problem with big pharma, specially in the US.

"WHO the F-ck are YOU- to decide WHAT information I or any other ADULT is allowed to read?"
I am someone who is interested in solving problems and looking into different approached to solve them IF they are backed by a solid scientific method. Again, you are allowed to read and write whatever you want, but expect your point of view to be challenged.

you will no doubt view my response with this-

  • assume I am one of the IGNORANT UNEDUCATED SLOBS of America, YOU with you PHD Studies, ohhhhhh so Intellectually superior.

  • I did not provide any more Concrete Evidence that Apricot Kernels work against cancer

  • but- here is the big BUT- did you ever for once consider that all your years of SCHOOLING- have actually been little more than a NON-STOP Pounding into your mind to "accept Authority" " Repeat The Controlled Narrative" that is fed to you.

Have you considered do you even have an original thought? Do you have skill with the Trivium? What will that PHD do for you, in the real world?

Some years back, I read about PHD without TENURE- being LAID off en mass. They were BLINDSIDED. They went fro #$70K- 10 $100K a year to getting paid $15K in just 1 year.

More rounds & more rounds of Mass layoff are soon coming to ACADEMIA.

It will come to those who have TENURE AS WELL.

So much for the SUPERIOR EDUCATED PHD INTELLECTS Pushing the CONTROLLED NARRATIVE. Yet they have no ABILITY to see the Writing Is The Wall for what is happening in the REAL WORLD or what is about to Happen to them. Yet they PREACH from their HIGH HORSES- About what they Think They KNOW as FACTS & TRUE.

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OK - maybe you should stick to pushing chemo and play it safe - LOL!

And wikipedia is always a reliable source, but I've heard snopes is even bettter...

PS - "Please don't spread false information that can harm someone" - like what? - what on earth are you actually trying to say?

I am not pushing chemo, I HATE chemo and is a last resort to a horrible disease.

Let me tell you why I took my time to actually do some research on your discussion points and why your way of thinking is harmful.

Both my grandparents died from cancer and my other grandma has cancer at the moment (chemo worked and went into remission), my father suffers from prostate cancer (again, controlled and is in remission), three years ago my wife had two tumors removed (one in her breast another in her womb). I KNOW cancer and I can tell you is horrible for both the person who has it and the family.

When trying to assimilate the reality of cancer, you want to find a magic cure, a potion that will make it vanish or at least stop killing you. You feel powerless and when someone says X can cure it, or Y can help you then you try everything because there might be a chance. Of course if there's a demand for it you can sell whatever you want under semi-true information and get a quick buck (at the expense of others).

That is why is so dangerous to spread this type of information.

First, people who do not have cancer might think that taking this will prevent them from getting it.

Second, you give false hope to people who have cancer and will try to look for any solution that sounds plausible to avoid the horrors of the disease and the vomit inducing, weakening and poisoning treatment that is chemo.

Finally and the most important, focusing on already debunked treatments provides only noise in finding the cure for cancer. Now people will try to get labs and researchers to look for a cure again in laetrile, for example, where it was debunked 30 years ago.

Time and money should be focused on other alternative treatments that have not been studied. You never know if a certain fungi, plant, bacteria or something else could actually cure or stop the metastasis of cancer but you are not looking because you still focus on debunked treatments pushed by personal agendas to sell some product or book or just gain recognition.

That is why this type of information is dangerous.

I'm really sorry to hear of all those people near to you having cancer, but what you just said is all quite deranged in my opinion.

I do have a bit of back story on this myself, but I'm not going to get into it here other than to say cancer is fully reversible, and I couldn't disagree more with everything you just said. But arguing won't do either of us any good. I'm just putting information out there, and how people react to it is entirely their choice.

Every Single person I Know or have Known- who has followed the MEDICAL MD Doctors Orders- that would GIVE them MORE TIME on Earth- in their Treatment for CANCER- has wound up sicker & Dead in NO TIME. Especially the poor fools who follow their doctors order for CUT- Poison Burn- right up to the DAY they land in the HOSPICE on their Death Beds.

The FEW who have said a Big F.U. to the Mainstream Medical CARTEL & Their $$$$$ Racket- lived the LONGEST & Had the Highest Quality of life After their "CANCER Death Sentence" from the Doctors.

So the Medical Doctors spewing all the HOPIUM & BS that the Patients HAVE GET their Lymph Nodes Cut Out, Then Go on for Chemo & Radiation0- every step of the way being told in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS by the White Lab Coat Doctors- That such TREATMENTS will ADD YEARS to their Lives- that is not spreading LIES or False Hope at all.

Here is a fact- the LYMPHATIC SYSTEM is the one of the Bodies SEWAGE WASTE SYSTEMS- where the Body filters WASTES out of the Body. So if you have CANCER- it's gonna show up in the LYMPH GLANDS. KNOW WHY, because the Bodies Lymphatic system is FILTERING the Cancer out of the body.

So it only makes PERFECT SENSE to start Cutting up & Removing the Lymph Glands from the Human Body- PER MAINSTREAM MEDICINE.

What happens if your sewer system in the house gets clogged up? Do you remove it entirely? NO! DUH!. What you do is UNCLOG the Pipes.

But only The men in White Coats Given a Medical Degree from Medical Schools - Medical School that have their TEXTBOOKS & School Curriculum "DICTATED" to them by Pharmaceutical Monopolies. So yah- Those Corporate Pharmaceutical Companies have only YOUR Health as their Priority, Not their own PROFITS. I really went off on an INVALID "TANGENT" there per Mr. PHD STUDENT.

Keep spreading the LIES & False Hop @Frot. You're in good company- it's Exactly what the Entire Mainstream Modern Medical CARTEL is doing.

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.”

It certainly is - and I'm honestly no longer sure which side of this disagreement you are really on!

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