STEEM is not censorship resistant ?

in #teamaustralia6 years ago (edited)

In light of the new EUROPEAN copyright right law that just got passed , I was wondering if STEEM is really censorship resistant.

New EUROPEAN LAW:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

Now , I understand that the text content is stored within the blockchain and can be uncensorable but any other content type gets stored on alternative servers , I am thinking dtube/dlive.

So for any meaningful rendering of these videos dtube /dlive needs to host them on some central server ,even beyond that a government can just go after the domain owner (dtube/dlive) to get content removed or owner fined.

Alternatively for text content only govt can go after domains (busy) or apps ( partiko) to get certain content removed at least from a UI perspective.Sure you can still query it from block chain but if the primary UI is required to censor it is a moot point.

I am not a block chain expert so this partly a question and partly a concern , I invite your comments on the topic.

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Good questions to which I don't have an answer as long as government exists in it's current form. Maybe the architecture as proposed by Cicada, where the split between miners and users is eliminated and government itself is decentralized could be the ultimate solution (I wrote about that in my latest post). But as it is now, I'd have to agree with @partiko and say that there'll probably always be some central point of attack / failure.

Brilliant point. It's fair to say that there's no perfectly censorship resistant platform, because there will always be a central point of failure, no matter big or small.

Facebook has a very big central point of failure, because the entire company is strictly under regulation. Bitcoin has less big of a central point of failure, much less, but it still has. The miner community is a central point of failure and so is the developer community.

In that sense, any app can be a central point of failure, and that's probably acceptable because great apps bring great user experience therefore making people's lives much easier. It's always about picking the right trade off and deliver the most value.

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Tks for your response.. it just occured to me all of us keeping repeating the censorship resistannce but its all a relative concept.

Sure , it wont be zuckbot's central army doing it but some variation will always exist.

Agreed. It's always a relative concept. Decentralization is another relative concept where we often see people easily get obsessed about.

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"if STEEM is really censorship resistant"

Steemit will be more censorship resistant to the EU's attack than the other Apps, which have identifiable parties in control of the content pipeline.

The new law basically says that those parties will have to police the links posted on their apps, instead of the current position, which is that bloggers themselves only are responsible for copyright violations.

The Steem blockchain itself, and Steemit therefore, has no party in control of it, as such, so would probably not be affected.

It's Youtube that will be royally ruined by this, though, AND ironically, the copyright holders themselves. At the moment, Copyright holders can get Youtube to pull any content of theirs that they want gone, by imposing three strikes on it.

Often, Copyright holders do not apply strikes, but instead, mark the content as their own and earn money off it. So if Blogger A uploads a video of Coldplay, Coldplay simply marks it as their content, and earns money off Youtube from that video.

This new law will effectively freeze all such content, taking away the copyright holders ability to police what they want to strike, and what they want to earn from, by simply brutally banning the lot.

The copyright holders will lose the army of Youtubers promoting and advertising their content (the aforesaid Coldplay fan video not only earns Coldplay money, it spreads their message virally from fan to fan, increasing their fanbase).

And Youtube will see huge percentages of it's content simply vanish overnight.

I doubt this law will pass, for these reasons, as it will be rigorously opposed, but if it does, Steemit may be the only app which can skirt the brutal edges of this new law. :0

Tks for your reply , I have a feeling Youtube's army of lawyers will always find a way around such restrictions.

What about auditions and karaoke? Lol
I heard everyone individually can be fined on Steemit. :(
Joy

I also heard they will just use algorithm to monitor instead of real people. Memes are fun and should be protected as an art form. Some people are so good at it. Thanks for the info. Great post.
Joy

Are you taking about UA AUTHORITY. .

I heard new EU rules just passed that will effect posts using memes and music using copyright as excuse to fine and censor platforms.
Joy

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