"One of them had just got out of the field hospital in Saigon and was kind of messed up." I cannot help but observe that all of the 'Nam vets I've met were "kind of messed up." I drove a cab for awhile in Portland (Oregon), and was often sickened at how people treated our vets when they came home, calling them "baby killers" (thanks a lot, John Kerry) and spitting at them. Welcome home.