RE: Look Out Fam: Justin Sun is at it AGAIN!
I think you're missing one of the most important points here. "Steem" is just a name, and what that name means is controlled by the exchanges and to a lesser extent the apps on the platform, with steemit.com being the top one by far.
So this means that no matter what changes we might implement with a fork, be it changing witness voting or removing the steemit stake entirely, it won't do anything. Justin Sun and Tron own the name "Steem", not legally - no one owns it legally - but effectively.
Let's say we create a fork that removes their stake entirely. They just simply start up their own witness nodes using the original codebase (which is what the exchanges are running already anyway) and then their chain is "Steem" and we just have a new chain with a new token and new name that has no exchange listings and few apps.
"Steem" was owned by steemit inc, and is now owned by Justin Sun and Tron and there is nothing that we can do about that. If we want a chain that is not owned by anyone we can make a fork and effectively start over with a new token and new name.
My point was to push a hardfork through the system to increase network security and gauge how much of an obstructionist Justin Sun is going to be. You are 100% assuming that he's going to reject any hardfork put through by the witnesses. You sure? You sound sure.
There's still a reason to do it: to prove it to everyone.
Not everyone's as sure as you.
Obviously they aren't going to let us easily fork their stake away, but vetoing an obvious improvement to network security is much harder to explain again. You'd know that if you were a real politician, but the "#1 witness" of this blockchain hasn't made a top-level blog post in 2 months even after being sold to Tron.
Maybe the truly foolish thing we are doing with this DPOS governance thing is assuming that developers can also be effective politicians at the same time. Not easy doing 2 full time jobs at once.
I'm definitely not a politician, and I consider that to be a good thing! I think one of the main issues with any type of leadership voting system is that it's really hard to tell who would actually be good at leading and make the best decisions for the long term.
In any case, I actually don't think they will do anything in response to a hardfork, and even though I tend to agree that a 1 SP = 1 vote system will be better than the 1 SP = 30 votes system we have now, I don't think we should push through any rushed hard fork just to "prove" anything to anyone. Hard forks are a huge deal and need to be very carefully planned and considered and not as a knee jerk response as I see happening here.
Regarding me not having posted in a long time, I agree that's not great. I've actually written three nearly complete posts since the acquisition news broke but haven't published them as things keep changing and I go back and forth on what I think the best message would be for me to send to the community.
If you don't think I'll be good at running the platform, don't vote for me. No hard feelings. I'll keep doing what I do regardless of my witness position. I just got back from promoting Steem all night at the pre-dinner for the NFT.NYC conference and will be doing that all day tomorrow. I may have even gotten STEEM to be listed on one of the top fiat to gateway services in the world tonight. We'll see, but hopefully in as little as a few weeks we'll have a button that anyone can put on their site to let people buy STEEM with a credit card or bank transfer.
I think you're doing just fine.
Chalk it up to this being a frustrating situation.
Well, events occur and as they change conditions, governance should adapt accordingly. That isn't just a 'knee jerk' reaction or proving anything to anyone. It's rational response to changing conditions, when you strip pejorative insinuations away. When you think about it, there's very good reasons our bodies have natural reactions to stimuli, like pulling away from being burned instantly. Events that require action require action be timely.
Extant witnesses have adapted to optimize their positions to extant conditions, and as the top consensus witness, no one has done so better than you have, which you must reasonably concede. This is not to criticize you for doing that, as it shows you to be more competent than anyone else here at adapting to conditions, which is a good ability to have.
However, the prospect of adapting to a new paradigm regarding witness votes is at least work, and it is to be expected that as the top witness and an active dev you have plenty on your plate, so that prospect cannot be desirable to you.
I reckon it is necessary though, and hope you agree that ending the 30x advantage stake weighting is accorded through the extant witness voting paradigm is obsolete, as the instant ability to control governance of Steem it allowed the founders no longer applies to Steem, as the founders of Steem have all left.
It's time for Steem to optimize it's governance mechanism as conditions that affect that governance have changed.
Thanks!
That sounds like a great achievement and I look forward to both reading it and one day doing it. Steem is a wonder out place filled with such extremes of good and bad, just like the world. I think that’s why we stay.
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Maybe the truly foolish thing we are doing with this DPOS governance thing is assuming that developers can also be effective politicians at the same time.
developers develop, politicians manipulate. The good politicians ones for good reasons , the bad (the majority), for more nefarious ones.
Expecting a developer to be a politician (good or bad) depends to a very large extent, on understanding humans and their motivations/behaviors.
Developers understand math and algorithms.
(A developer being a politician? - It's like asking a great white shark to understand the feelings of seals).
DPOS is an oligarchical system, there ain't no way around it.
Money does not equal intelligence, as in all oligarchies as they are created through nepotism and the 'might is right' premise.
Not meritocracy.
That's not gonna happen.
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I reckon you have greater understanding of this issue than most, due to several factors, but mostly because you have greater familiarity with the Tron team because of your work with them during the porting of SteemMonsters to Tron.
https://egamers.io/splinterlands-steem-monsters-going-tron-blockchain/
Could you address what you have learned from your work with Tron devs regarding their views on Steem, or such issues as may involve atomic swaps or token swaps please?
Thanks!