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RE: The Force Science: A Game of Cause and Reason.

in #steemstem6 years ago (edited)

A wonderful discussion. But... As much as i appreciate the philosophers of old that took their very limited knowledge of the world and tried to explain not only real world effects with various results, they tried the impossible for them, that being, giving explanations to the existential questions.
I know its a harsh things to say about the greatest thinkers of that time but they were wrong, a lot.
They made leaps in logic they should not have been making, using philosophy to make claims about purely scientific topics, making up terminology to suit their arguments.
Everything they said is a product of deep thought and a genius mind but in the end it all amounts to speculation.
Its very hard to hold any of their claims to a high standard of the modern day.
Plato and Aristotle were wrong on so many things its hard to count, and most their claims should be taken with a grain of salt.
Its rather the great questions that they asked that need to be studied rather then taking what they said as having merit. Take away their names and look at the claims.

Initial cause? Force? Prime mover? Second, third, fifth cause?
All of this is based in lacking knowledge of the universe, based on observing the mundane that surrounds them. On their own life experiences. Such a point of view is extremely lacking in its ability to collect information.
Even with the leaps in physics and science in general we cannot still answer some questions, and thats ok. It would be pretentious to think we can. The universe does not owe knowledge to an evolved ape. But its rather foolish imo to base our conclusions on thinkers from a few thousand years ago. Because well, their minds amaze us and they have a "High Rep". :D

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Well said @silentscreamer, truly these great minds of ancient times were quite broad in their speculation and tried to use logic or in a more simpler word, common sense, to solve the quandary of the universe. But, they had little or no observational evidence and advanced mathematical understanding of the universe and could therefore only speculate. To discredit their claims without giving them adequate considerations, however, would be totally unwarranted since it is Aristotle himself who paved the way for empirical reasoning, and without his help, we may have not been where we are. And it is still more true that even with all our development in scientific knowledge, when it comes to the question of our etymology, we can still only speculate. Thank you for stating your opinion on the matter @silentscreamer, you are indeed a savant on the matter. The next article promises to give you more insight and perhaps, leave you wondering too and i would very much like to hear what you have to say on the matter when we put science in the spotlight. Keep updated and thank you once again for your contribution, it was insightful.

Exactly. We should always study them because they indeed paved the way for empirical way of reasoning. They are greats indeed. Keep up the good work. Lovely post. 😉

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