Vaccines Kill Children - Here's Proof! And here is the answer...
Yesterday I stumbled on the article with the great Title:
Vaccines Kill Children!
Well, sure they do... Although the mortality rate of the children today is the lowest ever recorded in human history, but, sure, vaccines kill children.
And here is the Graph 1:
Wow, the trendline goes UP! God Damn you Vaccines!
Wait for a second, and take a look at the X-axis. Just read:
There is the list of countries and the Trendline?!
Trendline to What?
If you put the USA left, the trendline would go down. If you put the USA in the middle, it will form a triangle or a flat line.
Seriously, what is this graph representing?!
If you take this very logical route, from Sweden to Japan then to Finland, Norway, Switzerland, suddenly go to Australia, from Australia to Canada and then you go to USA - there will be a trend. Secret connection?
And if you want to see the data, here is the Wiki page, just type: "infant mortality rate":
Now sort the table.
And, imagine how unexpected the results are!
The Lowest rates are observed in well-developed countries with a good healthcare system.
The USA is comparable to the Eastern Europe. Bad, but not terrible.
Tiny Slovenia kicked some much richer nations?
Let's plot some real data:
In the period from 1950 to 1955, 30.5 of 100.000 children died before the age of 5.
Today, that number in the USA is 6.0.
Vaccines are killing children!
Ok... 6 of them, but it is still the LOWEST, EVER.
Whoever designed that killer vaccine - he did it wrong.
I don't trust the data! You Illuminati puppet!
Ok, do your research! Seriously, take a pen and notebook and visit the nearest house for retired. Ask them how many kids they lost. Ask 100 of them. Then go to the park and ask 100 young moms. And compare the numbers.
Figure 2:
Let's suppose that this graph is true, that it contains real numbers.
Why there is no data for post-2003? There should be an immense growth? Or at least new plateau?
It the result can be between 25 and 12 (50 %), it can be expected, just by common sense, that it goes up as well to about 50.
Why this is not normalized to 100.000 children? The population is growing, if we have 100 deaths in the population of 1.000.000 and 200 deaths in 100.000.000 what is more dangerous? How anyone can compare the data which are not normalized (expressed per 100.000 people)?
Figure 3:
Nice graph, but this graph is cummulative.
So, if the number of deaths was 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 - Trendline Flat
The cummulative graph will show: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - Trendline Running Up!
I couldn't open that article. If you have pdf - send me
But, what I would like to know is - where is the control?
How big the sample was?
It says that 70 % of death occurs after the vaccine.
Fine...
It means that 30 % of deaths occur outside of this time window.
And Why is This Important?
Well, if you have 2 deaths in this time window and 1 outside - you have a bad statistics.
However, if you have 2000 and 1000 than you have the proof.
By the way:
Epidemiological evidence indicates infants immunized against diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus (DPT) are at decreased risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).
And here is my source:
https://academic.oup.com/femspd/article/25/1-2/183/438782
I'm not hiding my sources...
If I were Illuminati
And wanted to depopulate the planet.
I would never use vaccines.
Those would be incredibly inefficient.
The effects would have to appear after 20-30 years (impossible to make such poison).
Every single man can test them in any lab in the world for about 100 $ and show metals, viruses, whatever.
And keep one thing in mind...
The number of people is Record High.
The number of child deaths under the age of 5 is the Lowes Ever.
And it is Lower in the USA than in poor countries.
And yes, it is a bit higher than in the Top Countries.
And the average lifespan is longer and longer.
And the 90 years old grandpa from Serbia is doing free climbing!
And a 90 years old grandpa from France is pacing the bicycle at 30 kph for 1 hour
Where are all those negative effects?
he sorted the first graph according to numbers of vaccinations regularily done in that country. Still, you are not allowed to draw a trendline, but it's better than random.
There seems to be an actual paper about this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
they correlate the number of vaccinations of a country's standard program with children mortality, and score a r = 0.7. Not too impressive, but a weak correlation.
But then, correlation is not causality, and also we know that the US might spend a lot on their medical system, but it's bad - really bad - for anyone who cannot pay the huge bills. So the high mortality does not come surprising.
And @steemtruth is still cherry-picking the countries that would look nicest in his graph. In reality it looks like this:
Thank you for this, I would give you 2 up-votes, write something in reply.
r=0.7, for me, this is a cloud.
Like this, there could be different nations and the:
...and there will be some correlation with the r= 0.7 (in 30 - 40 countries) :)
Weak lifters in the gym kill children!
Concerning good scores of small countries with lower budgets than the US (Slovenia, 3 x better, Serbia, equal).
Those countries have universal healthcare. It's not fantastic, sci-fi, but all the people have it.
The second thing, there are no "no-go zones" there. There are no slums (except some Gipsy camps here and there).
But... It's easier to protect people from the dragons and imaginary enemies than solve the real problems
amen
So, I made some more graphs, USA vs The Best, with the 10-years lag:
The same curve, with the 10 years of delay. What is wrong with the USA - I don't know, but I see the trend.
And, as you know, I'm a petrolhead, I just made it: Number of Cars per Capita vs Dead Children:
My R is bigger than their R :) so... Cars Kill Children, WakeUp People!
I'm preparing an answer posts to his anti-vaxx series. I will definatly have to quote that graph!
Try to drink (a lot) before writing. Answering that word salad spiced with multiple logical errors is not achievable with developed and active cortex.
The same as with creationists, flat-earthers, pseudo-historians...
They will keep repeating, throwing thousands upon thousands of same false examples and still grab the attention of some percentage of population that will be very loud and passionate.
Data for the Graph:
I could cherry-pick much better but even this was nice with no effort
there I gave you @sco a second vote that is worth roughly the same as yours
I'm always tempted of ignoring anti-vax, flat-earth, no-moon-landing kind of posts, because I would end up talking to a wall while getting nervous and ruining my day. For this reason, I'm very glad that there's someone like you that does the job for me with such an exhaustive post! THANK YOU!!
Welcome to SteemIt! I agree with you, it's not pleasant, not particularly interesting because their "arguments" are too easy to deal with but at the end of the day scientific community can't just stand and watch.
By simply ignoring them, it will seem that they are winning and that they are the majority.
Damn you @aleks1320 ! Obviously vaccines kill or why else would the governments want to vaccine people. :D
Of course, because - exactly! The lower amount of people means the lower amount of taxes and lower amount of drugs sold. Consequenly, lower profit for Big Pharma. And that is what They want, bacause - exactly!
In my country vaccines are pretty much forced by law. My problem is vaccinating against polio and other eradicated diseases. It has been almost 30 years with zero polio, why not give that out alongside a passport and not elementary school admission? Also, the Hep vaccine had actually killed more children than the disease. There are some serious side effects sometimes too. The effects on the population as a whole, the eradication of polio, and now chicken pox, are why I vax my kids, but there are definitely a few systematic wrongs in the US and South Africa.
Thank you for your question.
Concerning the "eradicated", those diseases must stay eradicated, because there are still some cases of "wild" polio in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Nigeria. As we are living in the age of migrations, traveling and tourism - it will be necessary to keep it at the 0 level.
About the Hep vaccine, may you give me some source, because the No.1 on GoogleSearch is Mercola?! And the Mercola is... I will decide not to use the words.
For the sources, check scholar.google.com, because there you can find scientific articles only.
I admit, there is some junk among the scientific papers, but the majority is valid.
I am not going to go "sourcing" and get into that type of argument. It is a wonderful circle-jerk you can have with someone younger and less educated....💩💩💩
Without the sources/ math we can discuss about nice cars, Ferrari vs Porsche, girls from Russia vs girls from Sweeden or McDonalds vs BurgerKing, because that sort of discussion is subjective and not measurable.
We can't have any discussion about multiplication: 7 x 8 = 28 or 78 or 56
Daily life of a scientist looks like this:
"I believe Tardigrades have a unique enzyme that destroys hydroxyl radical" - not worth discussing.
I isolated the protein, showed its expression, found its sequence, put it into bacteria, got the same - Nobel Prize
You have to look at the way Hep was stopping itself. It is a correlation, I will admit, but you have to compare the data sets. Also, in the US, you can sue anyone except the vaccine manufacturers. Why are they in such an elite class? There is a lot of "junk" accepted as science too, mostly political type junk.....
Let's see, Hep B:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/hepb.html
This is for Germany:
http://www.vhpb.org/files/html/Meetings_and_publications/Presentations/S34Radunberlin03.pdf
If Hep B erradicates itself, explain me this:
And let's see, again, Germany, not US, what is causing it:
It will eradicate by itself if:
Show me one single example, of one single state/ county/ country/ region where the Hepatitis simply disappeared just naturally, without any visible cause (not including extremely small populations, islands with 10 people).
I find it odd that the CDC and NIH do not line up. CDC spends millions on vaccines and is tied heavily to the industry. Also, what type of medicine can a doctor give you without warning you of the risks? Only vaccines have that type of protection! Like I said, try to get you polio vaccine before you go off to the backwoods of Chewbaccastan.....no need, if you are in the US you got it before you were able to attend school. The fact that Mercola is the number one Google search is a real problem here, I had never heard of Mercola, just knew that Hep was on its way down until the vaccine was introduced into the US in 1996. There are probably a lot of "mercolas" out there and why they float to the top of google searches is bizarre. I know that everyone has different results from google, but look for the numbers yourself. I have only a study of one, from which I have worked, admittedly, backwards to try to find any answers. Look at the numbers of death per year and you will see two evident facts: We are vaccinating against a disease that caused less than 5 deaths per year in children. The vaccine is killing more than 5 children per year. The side effects of 50 doses before the 4th birthday can be catastrophic. If and when you lose a child, you will probably look at things differently. I could go on for hours and hours. When my oldest was born the nurse carried him away to circumcise him. I actually had to ask where she was going and physically stop her to explain why that was stupid. Some parts of the world still circumcise or mutilate female genitals. I have no problem with a parent mutilating their child's genitals, but how would you feel if it was mandatory for public schooling? Yes the U.S. has a horrible broke health care system. Our government has stepped in to really screw things up, so we are about phucked now. One thing we also have over here, is the most aggressive vaccination schedule in the world. The fact that our government forces this is my problem. If I would have know that my youngest was going to pretty much become a vegetable, I would have slowed down the vaccine schedule at least. He will not be in contact with the general public very much, not in school with any normal kids. While I agree the alarmists who state that "vaxxed kids are doomed" are a bigger problem, non-medical type bloggers who state that they "have the answer" are not much better. The CDC has bad policy, and I have spoken to more Doctors than you have on this one topic, I guarantee. That does not require any type of "citation", just common sense. Before you go slamming anti-vaxxers in your troll post stop for a second and think about the few people who might have a vested emotional interest in hearing neither of you. Your take on science is obviously better than theirs, and I can respect that, but I am seeing zero answers here. The N.I.H. has produced the most interesting studies in the field relevant to where I am, but they are highly specialized. Go pick on the flat earthers or someone. If they are right, we can both push Dr. Andrew Wakefield off of the edge and into the void! -Rant Over
I sympathize with you and your family. However, why and how exactly do you connect this to vaccinations?
Since his health problems started 30 seconds after his 6 month shots, and have been getting worse for over 2 years. Like if a bullet goes through your skull and there were brain damage, how would you connect that? Why? How?
Let's check, for Hepatitis B, CDC in US:
https://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/statistics/2008surveillance/slide1b.htm
And for 2015:
Why it doesn't come to zero - I will show you in a separate post, but you gave me a great idea.
We must speak precisely. There are 50 vaccines. Ok. Let's see them: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vaccines-list.html
Rabies (sorry for the previous typo "Rabbis"), Tetanus, BCG, HPV - good?
Let's pick those controversial, and discuss precisely them.
But if we say "vaccines are bad" it can be devastating.
I might suggest that influenza, the number one cause of death in the U.S. in 1900, does have a lot more statistics backing it. Hepatitis has been epidemic, but in more isolated ways. 2016/2017 saw record Flu-related deaths in the US and this season cases are already up, allegedly, 800%. I would love to see an actual study of why it is good to take 10 or 20 vaccines on the same day. In the U.S. this is pretty much the only choice. I would also like to see a simple explanation of how the blood/gut and blood/brain barriers operate. Is there not a better surfactant than what the US is using? Do all these shots, with all of these chemicals really need to be given out in the same 5-minute period? Also, "Rabbis", funniest typo ever! You win 100 internets today....
Saying "vaccines are bad" is really the big problem. Look at a few orgainazations besides the CDC though, especially the NIH. A huge group of corporations saying "vaccines are completely harmless" is making for a huge lack of two things: research, and informed consent.
I just won the Nazi Nobel Prize for the proposed vaccine against the Rabbis.
Sorry for the mistake, this was a typo. I usually don't use those words (rabies and Rabbi) frequently.
As always, I like to see the data.
I'm analyzing the data for a living.
So, if you have some data, please give us the link.
But the sample size must be reasonable.
The Hep vaccine came out late 96, see the little slump downwards?
I see that there was about 4 for several years, then about 3 for several years and then linear down to 2.
This is not unusual for any complex process. It's pretty close to the shape of any decay.
As it approaches the asymptote (its final value) the noise will be more visible. I can bet that there will be a bump in years 2025-2035
Thank you for support
Haha, I like how you use the same font styles as the poster that you refer to. Bonus points for actually logical reasoning ;-)
Bonus for logical reasoning - sell all the cryptos, impossible happened on the internet. The world is doomed :)
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