WE ARE STEEMSILVERGOLD

in steemsilvergold •  last month

Alright stackers, I have been laying low over the past couple of days but I think it's time, enough is enough.

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For the second time this week we have had a member flagged by @grumpycat for no apparent reason other than they didn't use a vote bot that the cat approves of. Which I really don't understand why or who made him the bot police.

We are stronger as a group

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Now this may just be a coinsidence but two SSG members have been flagged by him, one of the cats reasoning is using bots that are not limited to the 3.5 days before payout. Now I have looked at each one of the post and both of them where well writhing the 3.5 days. Here are the 2 post , one by @thedamus and one by @kp138.

https://steemit.com/photography/@kp138/one-of-my-favorite-photos-on-the-south-china-sea

https://steemit.com/steemsilvergold/@thedamus/junk-smash

Now both of these guys have been members for a while. Both also contribute to the SSG with quality post. This act of flagging was not neccassary on these 2 post.

This can not continue to happen to our members, that are well within there right to use bots. See here at steemit you are free to do what you want and I personally do not see anything these 2 guys have done wrong.

This tag has always had a hard time pulling together, but rest assure that now is the time, the days of not helping members out need to come to a stop.

Now back to the issue at hand, let me explain a little bit about the cat. This account has been active since November of 2017. The account is heavily invested in steem. Over 600,000 Steem power to be exact. Now the account is currently in a power down which means he is pulling over 45,000 Steem off of the platform a week. That $185,400 a week. So I ask you this, with that type of power down, is he really invested or is he just trying to cause problems. Or maybe they are working for a specific vote bot and is trying to get everyone to go to that bot and not the other. I don't know.

This account also uses each of the bots that our members have been flagged for using

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Here is what the account is with drawing every week.

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Now this account can do some serious damage to anyone it wants to and that's fine, that is their right. But at the same time so can we, and I say we as a group because that is what it will take.

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👆 This is one that is built by many👆

There is no one person any better than the others in this group, but if we don't have each other's backs then what are we exactly

The next member that the cat attacks requires attention from all of us and if we do this each time he will eventually leave us the hell alone. @thedamus and @kp138 or anyone else can not do this alone. We all need to show up with a group of flags.

The time is now for this group to finally support each other, we have to get pass this as a group.

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Fuckin’ A Ray! Thanks for showing up on this issue. It’s important.

Don’t fuck with #steemsilvergold

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I'm thinking we should reach out to other grops as well that are being effected. I know people at #thealliance are being effected as well. Especially are buddies @michaeldavid and @sneaky-ninja

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MD is the bomb dot com — just let me know... i will thrash blindly towards what i think is correct

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Any #thealliance member has me at their 6!

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🔫 They don't call us the family for nothing.

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This is totally unfair. He should not do that. Why can't we just live peacefully?

@raybrockman apparently the Grumpy Cat guy does not know who he is messing with. ...........

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Yeeuh, don't fuck with the family.

I got my dick in one had and a sword in the other! Don't ask I have weird hobbies...but we ride together die together! 😎

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Hopefully not tip to tip!

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Hey man, they take the chance, either way something's happening to them

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Bah ha ha — i’m sure as fuck going to run from that! Lol

"Aye, fight and ye may die. Run, and ye may live, at least for a while. And dying in your beds , many years from now, would you be willin' to trade all the days, from this day to that, for one chance ,just one chance, to come back here, and tell our enemies, that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... Our Freedom!"

Also fuck that cat.

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Fuckin’ A Elvis!

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really fuck fuck

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With brave hearts and big hammers we shall emerge victorious!

Sending a lil’ bot-heat — 💥💀💥

Thx Ray!

The mafia members will show up and show out!

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Fuckin’ A pb!

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There’ll be no fucking around!

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Yeah melt that cat down.

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Melt The Cat! Melt The Cat...!

Fucking love this

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Just let us know bro!

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...solid baby! .999

These 2 quotes spring to mind.
"In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the People." EUGENE V. DEBS

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." THOMAS JEFFERSON

Keep us informed.
FLAGS AT THE READY!

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I tend to go with 'If Jefferson said it' , it's cool.

Respect the more intelligent....

...And take away the power given to the stupid...it never ends well..

I’m in man
Not sure what I can do to help but I’ll be here at the ready

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Just get ready to flag that piece of shit.

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how does one flag ? is it that flag symbol to the right of my post ---->

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Yep! Don’t initiate ‘til ya’ wanna...

I'm game! Flag away? Or wait for the signal? Lol

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Wait

Looking over his contents, he has a problem with bots upvoting on the sixth day. Can someone help me understand why here?

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It’s just crass... leave it at that and don’t upvote old posts...

There is a long winded argument about why there is this sentiment — but just trust me, if your post says anything older than “3 days” just leavr it alone and get busy moving fwd.

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So as a newby I cant get upvotes on my old post??????? Yal follow me....https://steemit.com/@madman4shure

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Jus’ be cool, show off your best manners and post good shit — it’ll work out fine.

Welcome aboard Madman!

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Amen! Thank you for the post. I’m in full agreement.

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Gimp-cat fucked with the wrong peeps.

Im not even sure how all this down voting and vote manipulation works but, perhaps it is something steemit can fix as it is still by definition in beta. Otherwise i guess thats the price we pay for a free market no 3rd party social network. That being said FIGHT BACK.. grumpy cat seems like a trouble making scam artist

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Out here in the perimeter there is no stars,
Out here we is stoned, immaculate!

There’s no Sheriff buddy, this is the new frontier.

What do you need me to do my friend?
By the way I agree we must act as a group to defend out members against needless attack and hold our own accountable when they do mess up.

Completely off topic I just uploaded an idea campaign for the 2018 Steem round and would love for you to check it out. Thanks brother.

Thanks ray for posting this. Let us know where to go on the next one. 👍🏻

We're with ya, Ray! Time to stand up to the local bully!

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👊😎 —-> 💥☠️☠️💀☠️☠️💥

I have voted both those posts, but I do urge some diplomacy before any call to war.

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^This is smart. When it comes to a knife fight here is the order of business:

  1. Run for your fucking life
  2. Try to reason
  3. Beg for forgiveness
  4. Go for the jugular with every fucking thing you’ve got — and take an eyeball as a souvenir.

this guy is such a fucking tyrant.

He is hitting accounts that are totally unfair as a means to convince bot owners to change. Thinking that if he hits enough customers they will push us to change.

The truth is that the moment that everyone starts bending to the will of only one person/account that has a lot of steem power they are giving up their free will on the platform. Not to mention they are opening a serious can of worms. Because now the whole community sees that one large account can now dictate any rules they want on the rest of us no matter how ridiculous or unfair. Lowering the length of days for bots like he wants has been discusses as a possible solution m any times. However it is not the answer.

The truth is that lowering the days will only encourage scammers on the platform that are already abusing these bots to invest more money into what they are doing because now they have to afford to bid in a series throughout the week on all their shit posts. It actually solves nothing.

The only minimal benefit is that they are now visible longer. The point in this is so that there is more time for people to flag them. Let's face it, there are far to many of these account for people to flag them all. Plus, this is steemit, most people really don't care enough to. So, the best option so far is a good black list.

The only thing that would actually affect it is a very good black list of spammy/scammy accounts that is being updated all the time that every bot could draw from.

As my show for support of this bro, I'm adding him to my blacklist and asking other bot owners to do the same. We may not have the power to flag his posts to 0 but we can stop him from using our bots to push his agenda.

He will still make almost $200 on each of his posts from his own self vote but it's a start.

Thank you again Ray, interesting point of view. All your motivation is great to always experience.

Seems since many members of SSG are also within the walls of #thealliance, perhaps a collaborative effort would be more effective. @thedamus has been with us from the get go and he's also been targeting my partner, @michaeldavid's @sneaky-ninja bot AND two of one of our witness' bots, @upme and @upyou ran by @suggeelson. Grumpy has no authority to dictate how a bot works and if he wants that authority, he should simply make his own. It's total bullshit from what I've been seeing. I think he just wants attention from Steemit members across the board so he started this bullshit 'I'm going to impose my will' campaign like fukn Bernie did. @grumpycat knows DAMN WELL he could be doing Steemit and Steemians a much better service by downvoting ACTUAL spam and giving UPVOTES to those here that are severely undervalued. Maybe we can convince him to be a hero instead of an asshole?

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I will be glad to help however I can

I'm down for the cause - absolutely. My previous post exposed grumpy's hypocritical ways.
Note:
@thedamus was hit with 100% downvote
@kp138 was hit with a 10% downvote

  • I think grumpy specifically hit @kp138 to fuck with us.

Suggestion: 1 Anyone hit by grumpy should get a 100% upvote from Stax to try to reverse it.
Suggestion: 2 Everybody needs to upvote the attacked member with 100% upvote.
Suggestion: 3 Find and attack grumpy's minions

Why would this Cat attack any of us...??? I'm confused... It
seems that if anyone was attacked, wouldn't it be me...???

COIN MAN by @pocketechange A Penny will cost a Dollar...

it's such a wonderful idea to act as a group exactly as the vikings haha ;)

Looking out for the community as always #champion

I've never given out a flag before mostly in fear of repercussions. Ray is absolutely right though, as a group we have real power and can make a difference if this asshole comes around again.

Thanks for sharing this issue its very important

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This is quite a serious issue and I am so glad you brought it up to our awareness. There are some people who flag down spammers and that's alright. However, flagging someone's post for no solid reason is just horrible. Also, should we report it to steemcleaners?

This stupid cat and these flag wars have totally gotten out of hand, they should not be targeting all these innocent bystanders, just to mess with a couple voting bots they don't like. We will definitely stand united if they strike again. Thanks for rallying the troops ray.

Thanks brother for sharing a good information for us

We stand as a team@steemsilvergold

Rally the troops!

Do we have collectively enough strength to make a dent in his activities?

You are a good leader , fighting , friend

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My $0.27 vote is not much, but I'll help iut where I can. Just send the signal and I'm there!

He might have a lot of steem power, but he surely didn't do his due diligence when he took such a heavy stake in the platform. Or maybe he could care less about that since his actions contradict the very construct of Steemit itself.

Imagine being pulled over for driving 30 MPH in a 30 MPH zone. That is essentially what he's doing by flagging users that are within their right to utilize voting services to have a chance at getting their posts noticed among trending content on this site. Upvotes are allowed for up to seven days and he's self imposed a new time limit of 3.5 days. Makes absolutely no sense. And it's a shame Steemit Inc isn't doing anything about it.

I didn't realize you could use bots to vote, but then I've only really been around fot a week or so.