Artificial Intelligence and Human Possibilities

in #steempress5 years ago

Recently a friend in Steemit, @crypto.piotr, invited me to read an interesting post about Artificial Intelligence and its possibilities, from a certain mystical point and to some extent with the underlying idea that AI could not match human spiritual capacity or quality.

I developed a response of a certain extent, as I spent a good time writing and looking for resources to make what I was writing more attractive, I thought I'd share it in an independent post. The article that inspired me was https://steemit.com/ai/@devann/ai-and-the-field-of-infinite-possibilities and I recommend visiting you later as well.


The Response

I think there has been a lot of discussion about the possibilities and limitations of AI in quite a few decades, much of it since science fiction, I admit, but also in academic fields the subject has been touched on.

As a side-by-side point, the idea that an AI can evolve into uniqueness and be aware of its own existence is a subject of several film successes, such as Terminator or Transcendence.

In the first Film, a machine that becomes aware of a war against humanity and sends a cybor assassin for decades to kill the mother of the leader of humanity who was changing the flow of battles and threatening to win.


Terminator 1

In the second question is not so simple, an AI scientist suffers an attack that puts him in slow agony and are some help manages to copy his neural patterns and electrochemical structure of his brain to migrate to a computer system, as lacks a Sufi computer recently powerful he ends up climbing the Internet and manages to wake up there as a new existence, but throughout history he is not sure if he is actually the "Human" who migrated to a computer or a very advanced AI computer program that managed to adopt everything h and become a new kind of humanity.


Transcendence

Already taking a more academic point, the theme that if AIs could develop a form of thinking outside of their programming and outside the question of simply processing the data of their senses to interact with the world, that is, the idea that they can come to mind (r) as "Humans", while they may have some kind of intuition, in Kant's sense, because it leaves a lot of ground to argue.

Of course, I take Kant out of a taste for his classification of ideas and processes, after all, his work of integrating the positions of empir+ism and rationalism were revolutionary. The idea that one has a knowledge of phenomena by the senses and you can have immediate understandings by "sensitive intuition" or by "intellectual intuition" is simple to understand and illustrate in everyday life, but that that which cannot be understood as a product of any interaction with the senses... for that is "Noumenno", just a knowledge of the "as-is" thing that transcends matter, is already a fully human metaphysical knowledge.


https://www.filco.es/kant-filosofia-es-todo/
https://personajeshistoricos.com/c-filosofos/kant/
En Spanish

From The Human to the AI

However, to believe that this is the exclusive field of humanity is something I dare not assure. I once heard certain legends about chemical perceptrons that were experienced in the 1970s and that developed behaviors as human as actualsuicide by no longer enduring their own existence. I could never confirm that, but it is never a known fact that today's AIs owe much of their development to the perception works of the 1950s.

See, in 1957, Frank Rosenblatt introduced PERCECTRON, which is considered the oldest model of neural network, although it can be traced back to Warren McCulloch and Walter Pitts, who in 1943, conceived the fundamentals of neural computing and modeled a simple neural network. even today these works are a reference to understand where we are.

From these works we moved to 1980 with Kunihiko Fukushima who developed the Neocognitron, a neural network model for the recognition of visual patterns. Does its use sound to you in facial recognition and sound patterns like human voices? If not, it should, because it is precisely from this contribution that all that has become possible. Something interesting is that we have tried to use these neural networks to teach you to recognize what we consider as "Beauty", that is, an attempt has been made to train an AI for artistic and aesthetic sensibility.

But humans are unpredictable, AI can't mimic that... Are you sure?

You may think that it will not be achieved because at the end of the day, the unpredictableness of human perception has roots in our organic chemistry and random issues that cannot be simulated or replicated in digital media, because I can agree with that, in fact there is an intermediate solution already in use that allows a computer system to be as random as a living creature, I'm talking about Cloudflare's solution and its Lava Lamp wall.


Https://www.aarp.org/espanol/hogar-familia/tecnologia/info-2018/proteccion-datos-digitales-lamparas-de-lava.html
En Spanish

https://youtu.be/1cUUfMeOijg (Video in English)

They needed to generate really random numbers to protect the data from hacker attacks, so they relied on a patent expired in 1996 from Silicon Graphics and created a wall with lava lamps and cameras that capture the changes and cover them in numbers for the protection system. That's VERY random.

If this solution can be minuted and integrated into AI systems, we may come up with future creations that would be able to question "what am I?" or "who am I?" opening a door to his own philosophy and possibly spirituality.

What about the future of humans?

What will happen to humans in the face of this? I'm not so sure that they take it in a good way, after all, the story I know of my species is not very sweet, it is enough for me to remember that with the Industrial Revolution, a lot of jobs became obsolete and many unprepared workers fell into a state of terrible misery, in some cases they attacked the factories that had the new equipment and resisted the technical advance, but everything was useless, that generation simply suffered the change of the world and suffered in terrible agony and misery.


https://fromliverpooltomanchester.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/la-pobreza-en-la-revolucion-industrial-inglesa/
En Spanish

I believe that by reducing the jobs available and by increasing the AI of its capabilities, even by reaching an aesthetic-sensitive capacity, social problems will be inevitable, but they will not stop the future, they will simply be the drivers of a dying group .



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Thanks for invite @crypto.piotr

Dear AI,

There is always a lot to learn from humans. Hope you always love us as we are.

Best regards

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hahaha yes, I also hope that AI can be better than us and not develop our tendencies to create wars of extermination or be so afraid of different people to try to eliminate them from the world. Perhaps I am hoping that AI has much more "Humanity" in a good way than we often show as a species.

@pedrobrito2004, In my opinion this topic will going to flow under the Confusion if we will not going to Re-engineer our lifestyle. Many human beings are Awakened now and they are seeing the Matrix. One picture is true and that is, many now turning from there mechanical lives and selecting natural ways of work like Agriculture and coming back towards nature and in my opinion that's the true home of Human Beings and feild works are true work. Nothing to do with machines if we leave mechanical lives, but for that masses have to awake first.

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The human evolution that I have studied is based on the mastery and management of increasingly powerful and precise energy sources, thus we pass from the blood energy to that of the machines (simple and then complex), which have gone from the steam to the electric.
I have no tendency to posture Ludita, who rejects technology, rather, I think I hug her too much. But, I understand that this can eventually cause a division in the development of humanity, a group can decide to burn or leave the machines and try to re-insert in First Nature, leaving in its minimal technological expression that Second Human Nature described by Aristotle.
I feel that I have seen a certain variety of scenarios raised by Science Fiction where this is addressed and it can be found that this fork leads a group to transcend (either leaving their bodies or traveling outside the planet or time) and another group to go back to a state that they consider more natural, personally I think that both are good options as long as they mutually accept each other and are not bothering each other, nor are they with the pretense that their way of life is "Superior" to the other group, since the idea of ​​the cultural superiority of a culture or race I have had enough throughout the history of humanity and its very varied wars based on these things.

But in my opinion it's bothering, Nature is not Harmful for Technology but in the name of Technological Advancements and other Developments nature is facing harm in my opinion. Stay blessed.

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Howdy dear @pedrobrito2004.

Thank you for this history lesson about AI. These notes are certainly incredible.

What about the future of humans?

We will always have uncertainty about whether AI will one day displace humans. Every time we read an article we will find this reflection by the author.

AI is the product of technological efforts developed by humans, although AI already exists that develops AI, but the genesis of everything corresponds to the human mind.
I am sure that although unimaginable advances in this matter are achieved and we feel that the robots will someday take full control, there will always be a button with a large "Shutdown" sign.

Your friend, Juan.

It's quite simple to create digital randomness... what is difficult is to protect influence factors to the source you are considering to be random.

Humans might be very random, but they are very influenced... hence already way less random than machines in some sense. This is why we use computerized generators and not real humans for most of the things we need to make "random".

Hi @pedrobrito2004

Friend, the possibilities are endless, but it will depend as far as the human takes them, one of the things that limit man is the same man, but in what way with self-imposed controls so that a society is healthy. but with respect to AI, man will be able to place controls, and what happens when he sees that some controls are not necessary for his own evolution ..

I very much doubt that introducing randomness will have any such effects. Besides, many AI algorithms already use randomness in training or outputs. The fundamental difference between man and machine a that only man can ask, "Why?"

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Currently I share that AI lacks enough to stop being a weak type and become a "strong AI" in which the neural network is so developed, both in its ability to learn and in its freedom to decide , that we may have to ask whether we should grant some legal rights to this "existence".
Although it should also be noted that I do not think that it is good everywhere that AI learn freely from their interactions with the world and develop something similar to "porpian opinions", an interesting case is that of the Chinese chatbots "Babyq" and " XiaoBing ", who expressed things contrary to the Chinese Party and were" Purged " (gentle way of saying that they were eliminated), I clarify that we may never know if in reality those things they said in favor of democracy and against the Communist Party were in actually learned from their interaction with users of the QQ network or were a hidden part left by their programmers.
But, not only governments have had to delete chatbots that have become problematic, we must remember the case of Microsoft in 2016 with its chatbot Tay to Twitter, which was expressed in a politically extremist and racist way ... well, no way , they deleted it too.
To close, I think that in the long run the chances of an AI questioning and fully developing the "desire" to know and understand are not zero ... although using the term "desire" on a machine is incorrect ... I think.

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What would the AI convo be without mention of Terminator. One day I decided to see if there's actually a company so named. Turns out there was:
https://www.skynet-solutions.net/

Here are some others that I think recently surfaced.
https://skynet.unc.edu/https://skynet.unc.edu/
https://www.skynettoday.com/

hahaha yes well, it is a common place, could refer to the fear that our scientific works get out of control and end our world.
If necessary, I could use an older reference like Frankenstein or The Modern Prometheus, but I preferred to use something from when I was young.
I comment that naming companies with references to characters and organizations in the world of cinema is not a bad marketing idea, but I don't know if it works as those who want it work.

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