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RE: Splinterlands Fantasy Story and Music Contest Winners! Week 10 // 15 Booster Pack Prize!

in #steemmonsters5 years ago (edited)

Given your first reply, I think Graphtar replied exactly what everyone trying to help could have replied.

I saw you screenshot a card at 0.09 ==> 0.220 STEEM and another at 0.07 ==> 0.182 STEEM because that was the only thing we could see a that moment from your reply.

I also think this thread (about a contest) is certainly not the place to investigate any kind of display problem with card prices. I say it with no hard feelings.




You really should take your question to the discord, it will be easier to understand what you are meaning here right at first sight. On Discord we can zoom on pictures and see originals.

Here we can't even zoom on your picture examples.

So you may see an information that I just cannot see on your post.


Implying there are scams or something and throwing a bunch of non-zoomable pictures, is like saying there is a murderer somewhere and then throwing a picture of a deep fog and saying "look at him he is here!".

Invite link to Discord tech support here:
https://discord.gg/bzbkb8V

If you think the problem is serious, then please use a serious way to share it and investigate.


Trying to make my reply more useful to you, AFAIK I can think of a limited answer.

The problem you mention may be tied to the experience the card has and the varied experience systems the game had.

There seems to have been a previous "experience chart" on cards when Steem Monsters started. A level 1 card, with supposedly 1 BCX, mays actually be a card with 90 experience points, 40 points, 0 point, or 150 (not an accurate example, I was not there at the time) because 1 card adequates to different number of experience points, depending on foil and rarity. Again my values are here just to give you an idea. There are public API threads to check the actual experience values.

Some cards (possibly alpha edition, etc) may have superior experience even for the same level.

If I report this to your exemple, for instance the card at 0.09 may have superior experience than the card at 0.07 despite being at 1 BCX for our current usage.

It may have happened since the release of the market updates last month or one month before (not so far in time) where we could see cards so much better. The problem appears now because more old-time cards may be competitive with new ones I suppose.

That may also be the reason why sometimes at some levels and card foils, you combine cards and end up at 1/6 or 0/5 instead of 0/6.

What makes me think about this is that the card numerotation is also different in some examples if I try to read the cards references.

I know my numbers do not make sense, and I am certainly not an old-timer able to reply accurately.

But this is what I can reply about this situation here from what I can understand while dedicating some time into reading your situation.

In any case, your report seems to be good. You were really right to ask about it.

This may need some change, we could use more clarity on this situation, so please ask on Discord and see what the official answer would be!

Thank you hhh-fan.

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@graphtar thank you for responding.

Edit: What speaks for the XP is the following (look at the Frost Giants ingame): The 2.70 for 2.03 at lvl 1, 1BCX has a green scale on its card, whereas the 2.04 for 2.04 at lvl 1 has no - as it usually is. Similarly the first sold card (20.35 for a BCX of 1.91) is at max lvl 4 with only 10 cards, whereas later on lvl 4 max cards have both 11 BCX (and those match to the BCX prize). Also there are three cards for sale with 2 BCX, two are the weird ones, which reach lvl 2, the other is the normal one and still at lvl 1. All in-game, Frost Giant. Edit end.
@elindos "Here we can't even zoom on your picture examples." This is just plain nonsense. Use ctrl and + to make everything larger, you can see the pictures then just fine; ctrl and - to make smaller again or ctrl and 0 to get back from anywhere to base 100%.

I have no inclination and no obligation to install discord. Posting this under the most recent post of the official steemmonsters account looks to me just very fine and like a very serious way to approach.

Now to the "more useful" part of the reply. That read like some help.
XP might be the thing. Might be not. I have never heard of this phenomenon/experienced it: "That may also be the reason why sometimes at some levels and card foils, you combine cards and end up at 1/6 or 0/5 instead of 0/6." (With never I mean 0/5 instead of 0/6, it is just normal that at some ranks it starts with 1/x level and on some with 0/x level.)
An alpha card is worth more than a beta card, so it hardly could be a beta card with the additional rest of an alpha card. But whatever, there might be some xp issue. https://steemit.com/steemmonsters/@steemmonsters/kickstarter-update-plans-for-fundition-campaign-and-beta-edition scroll down to "card xp scaling"

If it were an XP issue then indeed it would be only a graphics and description issue. As I said, a nuisance.
If not, it would be more serious, as I wrote. To list a card which is more expensive for cheaper is about real steem money. Although it is easy to see in the Frost Giant 2.03 and 2.70 example, it is not so very easy to see for cards which are combined. Then it would mean you can absolutely not trust the listing but would have to calculate every time if this listed price is accurate to BCX. (See, e.g. the first Frost Giant at 20.35 instead of 19.10. It is also to be noted that the difference here is 1.25, so it is not simply double the difference from 2.03 to 2.70 (67 cents) which would be 1.34 (or including a little variation 1.35).)

I dunno for sure about the actual problem, generally it's because of the rounding of BCX (at least the number displayed) for cards converted/combined, at least in previous situations that people have asked about. But you definitely should use the Discord, the community and devs are much more active on a daily basis there than on Steemit.

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