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RE: Steemit will fail if whale-votes are not capped - draining the reward-pool is like watching politicians steal money from the people!

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

I can see from where the author's concerns are coming from but I don't agree with most of the statements. "reward-pool belongs to every voter on the platform" - yes it belongs to every voter but proportionally to voter's stake, and stake is the best proxy of the ownership. Analogy with Zuckerberg doesn't work either - he and his friends owned 100% so basically all FB likes went to their pockets, not to users. Neither I agree with generalizations like this "greed has taken over and poisoned peoples mind", but if a lot of people start sharing this believe this can be a sign of a problem.
As it for whales - as platform's co-owners they would be better listening to users rather than downvoting their critical opinions.

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Analogy with Zuckerberg doesn't work either - he and his friends owned 100% so basically all FB likes went to their pockets, not to users.

Exactly and even when you get one penny on a post it's more than you get on Facebook where 100% of the earnings go to the company and the shareholders. We get nothing there and they sell our information to advertisers and use our posts to profit. It is a terrible comparison.

It isn't the critical opinions that are a problem, nor the reason for the flagging. Your opinion here on the latter points was presented in a thoughtful manner, and I'm upvoting you for them. The original post with trolling and spreading anger and negativity, not ideas. Critical ideas or not, the way they were presented is destructive.

To respond directly on your point about "people start sharing this believe", I believe one reason for that is precisely people promoting these attitudes as a form of trolling and possibly in some cases competitive sabotage, stirring up jealousy in order to get upvotes and visibility and then even in some cases getting paid by us to do it. They are using our own platform and our resources against us, and as one of the platform co-owners as you put it, I do not want to see that continue.

I have yet to find any thoughtful posts criticizing the platform to have received anything but silence. Being silenced seen as the answer when the quiet knocks for attention go unanswered time and time again, and people begin to scream.

Most of the criticisms have not been thoughtful at all, though yes there are a (very) few exceptions. This is a complex system and most do not understand how it works. You can't make constructive suggestions to improve something until you first understand it, and as someone else said on this thread, most such suggestions end up breaking something else.

In the end, people will have to learn that some of their preconceived notions of how a site is 'supposed to' work need to be checked at the door, and stop making suggestions that try to make it a safe, controlled environment with enforced rules like Facebook or any other centralized system. These 'suggestions' (which I would call trolling after a point) quickly become repetitive and tedious and when turned to a negative hateful tone, their very presence serves only to damage the platform.

It actually bears a lot of similarity with Bitcoin and preconceived notions of how fairness, safety, and value are 'supposed to work' when it comes to money. Bitcoin has endured no end of these criticisms and, yet, it is still here, still the largest cryptocurrency and still going strong with no end in sight.

I always appreciate your responses. I agree that a lot of the notions that pertain to how it "should" work need to be checked, and also that a lot of suggestions would have the affect of breaking another thing.

Where do we get to find that out though? I know I have pulled up GitHub and found some of my own suggestions couldn't work and the reasons for it. That is my nature though, I like to look into details for what I am passionate about.

That said, it would take years for me to get an understanding on a level to know why they won't work. I just pick up a piece here and there. I was more saying that posts offering suggestions early are often not given reasons it couldn't work.

I know there isn't time to address every suggestion, there are a ton... but that is what I refer to when I say knocking turns to screaming. I have a hard time thinking of much else to write about, I am very hopeful for what a site such as this can mean to the general user. In my eyes these are the same users posting a majority of this content and feeling silenced or ignored.

I would completely love to have a level of understanding required to meaningfully contribute to what I feel the site needs. The majority of which doesn't address the money issues, but looks at other ways to promote the feeling of growth outside the $$$ part, which is hard to get past.

unrelated reply I hope catches your attention. I am asking as both a heavy investor and a witness, in addition to some I have respect for based on interactions, for you to read my post. It is a general question and I am not asking for a vote.... just insight and understanding on an issue.

https://steemit.com/witness/@clevecross/question-on-witness-voting

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