Testing Ads on Steemit.com

in #steemit5 years ago

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Hello Steemians, as part of our strategy for improving the economic sustainability and decentralization of Steem, we are selectively rolling out advertisements on steemit.com. This is only an experiment and no final decisions have been made with respect to the use of ads on steemit.com.

Despite the seemingly high level of support for ads, we understand that many users might not be comfortable with the idea of ads on steemit.com which is why we are proceeding with a small test.

The Steemit Team

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If and when you guys roll out advertisements, can we implement some kind of revenue sharing model for bloggers? I think that would go a long ways in attracting and keeping talented content creators much better than we have thus far. I think overall you guys would end up making MORE money with revenue sharing than if you kept it all because our numbers would be that much higher. A smaller slice of a big pie may end up being much more valuable than getting the whole pie, if it stays very small. Something to think about...

You would be super surprised at the amount of crap traffic that would be generated because of this and how many people will try to game/cheat the system it wont work.

Pretty sure people try and cheat/game the system any where this is implemented yet they figure out how to make it work regardless.

@steemitblog @ned as long you put ads that won't appear on browsers using adblock, no one will be angry at you for making some $ with ads.
Those who hate ads won't be annoyed by them. But those who are indifferent, or even enthusiastic for Steemit Inc to generate cashflow without flooding the market with coins will check the ads out, and likely occasionally click on them.

(Upvoted for visibility)

If we get ads going, does that mean the automated steem selling can stop or at least slow down?

I support this, we also desperately need revenue sharing with bloggers.

It is the best way to get influencers over here and keep them here. They will also bring with them large audiences which will boost your advertising revenue.

The Rev share would come from the increase in steem price there's no reason to delegate it out to certain people it would honestly destroy the system. So many sites have gone into rev share with content creators and ended up shutting down over the abuse that happens from it.

Why would there be an increase in the STEEM price? Seems like there wouldn't be any connection to ads. Steemit, Inc would make out okay and be able to pay their bills. That's the only benefit I see for users.

Which sites are you referring to specifically?

Many have done this already they don't exist anymore because they went belly up from abuse and just flat out spam.
TSU would be the most recent example of this

Being able to monetize in a similar way to youtube, twitter, instagram etc. is crucial for getting and keeping influencers here. If the steem upvote model worked, we would have much better results after 3 years 'in the wild'.

Agreed monetization has to happen but it should simply go towards covering costs and increasing the value of steem itself. Not as a rev share depending on how many views likes etc I get

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My contention is that if money is awarded to better blogs, it will attract better influencers, who in turn will attract large audiences, which will in effect make the price of steem go up as the pool of people involved gets that much bigger.

How do i get a steem monsters pinned post?

Aquire a lot of tokens or buy the vote of those who did and think featuring your content doesn't put at risk the value of their investment.

You can also burn some token to the be "pinned" in the adverts section of Steemit (Promoted).

I totally agree, i think the best soulutuon should be that 1/3 of ads go to steemit inc 1/3 to content creators and 1/3 get burned so everyone benefits. Content creators, investors and the company.
Only those that never paid a dime to buy steem will complain about ads. I say F em.

Well said, but the question is...

burn sbd for the "promoted" page, that's where all the activity is

Yes all of the trending post hide there, LOL

I will turn my adblockers off for steemit.com
To me, this is progress and shows that they listen to the community.

Thanks, we appreciate it!

Yep, got to make some money to keep this ship sailing - We the creators will of course block ads - but our readers will see them, so what can I say.

  • congratulations

https://steemit.com/solutions/@fyrstikken/my-3-solutions-for-steemit-inc-to-make-steemit-com-an-asset-and-stop-being-a-liability-for-the-company

Now go through the other suggestions, @ned.

Cheers :)

@fyrstikken
Still here, after many a year.

Yeah I just mentioned adblock and its funny that steemit inc doesnt realize just how many people use adblock who use steemit.com, its like come on , why doesnt steemit inc embrace their niche, and stop trying to act like just another ordinary startup..... its not and steem needs to FIGHT for their coin on the blockchain leaderboard and bring back our #3 place we had in 2016 at one point.... we need to get back to when we were in the top 15 , we need to stop letting Ned make excuses about how we cant grow untill we can fix the account creation faucet, when that has nothing to do with steem traded on exchanges, we should be pushing binance users to buy steem as an investment, large bitcoin investors should be buying steem as an investment, we need to get new users into those simple websites that let you delegate your steem to sp and earn passive income, i mean theres way sto do that without even needing an account in a non decentralized way like binance or bittrex with memos, so anyway theres so much potential in steem... makes me angry that steem is so cheap... so angry i have to go back to Vaping

maybe they will do like youtube/google and share 50/50 with creators :)

Yeah but other than that Im grateful for steem and i know when bitcoin goes up steem goes up, and also the code for hivemind and SMTs is all done just has to be tested and i know it will be finished and we will have some incredible stuff when community and developers flesh it all oiut

Would have made sense before the bidbots. Now I'm not sure it would help.

Brave ads? and why cant we use Brave browser to earn some rewards when YT and twitch accounts can?

That would be my thought. I'm tired of every single decentralized project wanting to reinvent the wheel and not partnering with other projects who have already created a robust solution.

Of course only ~10M people use Brave monthly at the moment so it's a very niche user base, but Steemit could at least partner with Brave so those users who want to be rewarded by Brave could collect ad revenue and share some of it with the Steemit platform. It would be like an ad-bonus to the STEEM rewards, it could even be paid directly in STEEM once they receive BAT from Brave. Users could select how much to share with the platform from 0 to 100% (I'd be happy with a minimum > 0%, more like 10 to 30%).

This would be a great way to extract value from non-Steemit users who visit Steemit posts. If one day Brave is at least as popular as Firefox, which I think is definitely doable, it could be a big deal.

most viewers of the content on Steemit are non-users (google SERP)

Source for that? Cause I have a feeling that external traffic has probably plummeted and continues to do so. Alexa seems to agree with me with the plummeting part and also indicates that external traffic sits at around 30 %.

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similarweb showing traffic from searchengines 54%

Oh, that's just me searching "[Steem handle] Steemit" to get from place to place while on mobile.

Navigation isn't this place's best suite.

Yeah that's another thing I didn't even think. I have probably used google hundreds of times to find users that I don't exactly remember their nickname, mentions of me, old posts of mine I made a year ago etc etc. I would bet that a large % of google hits are of this nature.

how about a marketplace for Steem/BAT change? So i could use brave browser and steemit.com could change their BAT into steem so demand stays higher for the Tokens? Ad Networks pay in Fiat, i suppose.

Ideally, BAT should just become an SMT, swapping from Ethereum to Steem. It really makes way more sense for Brave's token to be an SMT, it just fits their model best.

Is there a way for us to optin or out of these ads? or be part of the initial testing?

Great idea! I believe I suggested this long time ago... If you had put on ads eariler maybe you didn't have to lay off 70% of the engineers.

It's clear you have no idea how adsense ads work which is ok. Perhaps in the past ads would have generated lots of money, but with their history, it's safe to assume they would have used the ad revenue for crack, whores and the occasional expensive haircut.

As for today, at the current state the site is they will just make the website look more shitty, make many of the few users that sticked here even more angry, fuck the serp rankings even more and perhaps generate enough revenue for a pack of cigarettes.

Yeah... As you said, great idea... Actually it's shitty which is a good thing cause they will keep dumping their stake for dirt cheap prices and sooner or later they will be a thing of the past.

P.S.: Now let me seize this opportunity to shill one of my favourite pieces of software, Brave Browser which is integrated with the BAT token. Among other things, it's super fast and blocks annoying ads, including those of Steemit.com.

Learn more at:

https://brave.com

https://basicattentiontoken.org

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/basic-attention-token/

I think the "occasional expensive haircut" comment needs to be addressed. They are not occasional. They are daily and we have a team of highly trained beauticians that make sure I am in pristine condition each and every morning then also halfway through the day. It is literally a full-time job to look this good.

I'm surprised that Ned has any hair left after what has been going on.

Oh, he would never pull me out. I have seen him freak out and "air choke" someone across the room in a meeting like Darth Vader though.

Yeah tokens are nice but does it stream porn?

Yes, and from my experience its the best browser for porn.

!tipuvote 0.1

Seems that you have no deposit. Plase send any amount of SBD or STEEM to @tipU to use @tipU services :)

Many of us have been suggesting it for oh I don't know 2.5 years.

Well, maybe they are talking about ads for open employment positions. Let me just tell you how hard it is to keep good help around nowadays. I mean I have employees dropping like flies. Seems like every time one of them gets a little dirt on me they go and shoot themselves in the back of the head 5 times.
Now if you are talking about the actual advertising of products and such I may be in contact with you. Keep it under your hat but let's just say I may be running in 2020. Well, maybe running is a bit of false advertising on my part. It may be more like my security detail will be dragging me around like the latter part of Weekend at Bernies. I feel pretty good about my chances this time around. Nothing can stop me now except for maybe a set of stairs or a gradual incline over 3 degrees.
So keep an eye out for a "Hillary for prison president" banner coming to Steemit soon.

I honestly don't know anyone who's shot himself more 4 times at the back of his/her head but I guess its the American factor. The right way to win an election is by telling the masses about your plans and policies but 80% of them are drunk and the other 20% will most likely spend the entire time wondering how it'll be like to have sex with you(my offer still stands like my genital by the way). The second best way is subtle rigging, you basically sleep with bribe every delegate and everyone stupid interested enough to come out and vote. For good measure, you should also bribe the police, armed forces and all the weird tech guys that count votes (they'll sleep with you). Bribing is way easier than running.

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I can only think this is going to backfire. If the steemit interface level starts banning controversial topics that other platforms do to appeal to their advertisers, its become another reddit... except less popular and worse design. Obviously the content will still be on the blockchain regardless.

I'm sure the views of the three people on Steem without an adblocker will be very lucrative for you.

three people? is it that bad?

Steemians have come to enjoy a world without ads over the years. Maybe it's the final push they need to start exploring other front-ends. :)

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