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RE: A CENSORSHIP THREAT TO STEEMIT

in #steemit7 years ago

A lot of good ideas BUT what I'm really saying is none of these complex solutions are necessary if flagging is dumped.

The main reason it remains is because it allows whales to control the content.

As an example, lets say I took offense at your thoughtful and in depth comment because I feared it weakened my position.

All I have to do is flag your comment and nobody will look at it. Because I have a bigger wallet than you there is nothing you can do about it.

Nobody will look at your comment because they will assume you are just another spammer saying something like "nice flowol me and i bak you flowol" Dissenting view eliminated.

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I always click reveal and read what's there. Also on other sites with a moderation system for the comments first thing I do is change the setting so I get to see all comments, even those with are down modded. But maybe that's just me.

It would be great if there was a reveal setting on Steemit (note for boffins)

Those examples of abuses of the flagging system are enough to make strongly consider getting rid of it. I'm just thinking that, at least within the current mindset on steemit, there may need to be some kind of compromise in order to achieve the dissolution of the flag feature. You say you've been lobbying for this change for 10 months now, and a decentralized mute list service that users sign up for voluntarily sounds like a very fair compromise, and could satisfy many of the concerns on all sides of the argument.

Previously the flagging was mostly whale revenge and control flagging, but this new trend is pure censorship using downvoting as it's main tool

Flagging has always been a function of the blockchain so that people couldn't just game the system for a guaranteed reward and then cash out at the first sign of price drop.

The main reason it remains is because it allows whales to control the content.

It allows everyone the same.

As an example, lets say I took offense at your thoughtful and in depth comment because I feared it weakened my position.
All I have to do is flag your comment and nobody will look at it. Because I have a bigger wallet than you there is nothing you can do about it.

People can still and still do look at it, I've been flagged by bots a few times now, and people still look and respond to your comment, it doesn't mean nobody will look at it.

He can still do something about it, he can spam that comment, he can make a post about how his comment got flagged, he could also simply ridicule your flag and maybe he could even convince you otherwise.

Nobody will look at your comment because they will assume you are just another spammer saying something like "nice flowol me and i bak you flowol" Dissenting view eliminated.

That's not true, people still look at those comments, it's in human nature to click buttons that say "reveal".

Just try copying and pasting some b-grade porn and posting it like the whale at the top of this comments thread does all the time.

I suspect that unlike him, you would find yourself flagged very rapidly!

Flagging serves one major purpose - protecting the interests (maintaining the control) of whales

The interest of the whales isn't exclusive to the interests of the community, or the fact that influence is incentivized. What's important is that if people can still post, comment and upvote or otherwise curate content in spite of "being censored" and their content isn't altered, then it's not censorship.

Flagging is here to stay because otherwise a large account could methodically rape the reward pool for themselves and nobody would be able to do anything about it, it makes sense because it would guarantee themselves a steady source of income. This would make sense to just about everyone, why spend the voting power on someone else when you can concentrate it all on yourself as the large accounts would do. You're getting author and curation rewards, duh, and nobody can disagree with that, because censorship, whale control.. because people post NSFW material in NSFW tag and make money.

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