@rok-sivante As lame as it is, I believe it is intentional and not a glitch. @creatr has lamented this before, several months earlier. I'm not sure if Steemit, Inc. made the decision in order to make the site somehow run smoother/faster or if they think 1 year old+ posts are "irrelevant."
Either way, I would like to see this addressed. Part of the blockchain's point for me is that the content is always preserved and accessible, so why would you build a front end that manually expires it? There are still so many issues with mainline 'Steemit.com' that are barriers to wider adoption.
There are still so many issues with mainline 'Steemit.com' that are barriers to wider adoption.
Yeah. Kinda sad that stuff like this hasn’t been addressed and fixed in the two years we’ve been building, though guess it is what it is for the time being...
I keep a list of my posts in Excel but I think I may have missed some.
That's one way. I also use steemsql for extract sometimes, that's another way. The third way is to search on steemit or even google using your account name and what the title could be.
If you need help extract a list for a date range, let me know.
There was a link provided above to some tool that works in Chrome - not Safari... isn’t a great UI and still a disappointment that can’t do it the normal way, nonetheless is a workaround in the meantime...
The normal way is to keep track myself/yourself. :-)
Even with steemsql, I have a list to track go back.
Actually it's faster then scrolling back list of my post back a year.
Here's a link to said workaround, hosted on my github pages site. I made tweaks so that it should work in Safari now, but I haven't been able to confirm yet.
That isn't cool.We need them for posterity sake.Countless hours have gone into the making of those posts so they are relevant to us besides it is something of a legacy that we can leave to our children.I started using the steempress plugin so i now have sort of a backup of all my posts offsite.
@rok-sivante, First of all it's really unfortunate for sure and that is because, when we are talking about the Decentralised Economy then for sure we should see effectivity in that way.
But, if we are not able to find one year back posts then that's really unfortunate aspect for sure because our work backed with the time and effort and if it's not accessible then that's an negative aspect.
And in my opinion Steemit Team should consider this aspect because we never know which post can help us and for that we have to scroll back and if we fail to get the post that's an discouraging aspect.
Let's hope that, over the time we can see more and more improvements. And if we see small small updates then it can bring the big changes and can bring big effects.
Hello sir...@rok-sivante
Just read your post and I didn't see what I expected to see... I'm so sorry for the bug you noticed... I'm sure this as been a long time thing but most people seem not to notice because they probably don't check thier past works.
As for me, I may also not notice because I have an application (Writer plus) - supports markdown/html in which I write my articles and add images before taking it down to post.
I understand the fact that you have every right to be upset, if it happened to me I'll probably get upset too, but this is not much of an issue if I'll say, because there are so many ways you can rectify this...
You should try http://steemd.com/@rok-sivante, you should be able to get all your past work there starting from the day you joined Steemit...
And I'm so sorry for the experience, I know how annoying and frustrating it can be, but this shouldn't stop you from blogging...It's just to make you aware once again that nothing comes totally perfect, Shit happens. Just let it go.
I wouldn’t let this alone fully deter you, although I understand 100% why it would.
Despite it, there still are a number of reasons why to use it - the reward system being one, although perhaps the strongest being the community. There really are alot of great people to connect with here, and it is an excellent platform to grow relationships with readers that don’t really take place on other platforms.
I’d truly hope that now the issue is being brought to attention, the development team will sort it out such that in a year’s time, it’ll no longer be a concern. Though even if it weren’t handled, the benefits would still likely justify the flaw - and as per some of the other suggestion in the comments thread, there are ways of managing it: whether keeping a list of posts for your own reference, saving your writings offline, or also having a wordpress blog where they can be stored & accesses indefinitely while using the SteemPress plugin to syndicate them over here.
I know, all that is a bit of a pain in the ass and a discouraging deterent. Though nonetheless, having experienced everything I have on Steemit since the start, I’d advise that it’d probably be a far better strategic move to utilize this and another platform together, if having access to your entire history of writing it critically important.
(And then there’s also a different strategy altogether of letting certain works fade away with time, letting them serve their time and place in the moment, focused more in keeping the flow in the present than preserving the past, working for constant improvement for creating anew than holding onto what’s time has past - similar to the philosophy embodied in the Tibetan Buddhist practice of putting up to five years into the creation of sand mandalas, only to brush them all away when complete...
*Something of an aside, though well-worth the 3-minute watch:
I was thinking about this whilst driving this afternoon. The reason i chose steemit was because it's all in one place, i looked into wordpress and a few others, for which you need a hosting site etc, this just seemed simple. And yes the rewards system was far more appealing as it's pretty straight forward. I know nothing of blogging or how to make money writing them, that's not my ultimate goal but of course if i can potentially earn some money then i want to do that, who wouldn't?
The plan i have for my blogs is for it to be like a story, and a reference point for others. I am in the process of making some big changes in my life, and hopefully with time i will be in a much better position mentally, physically, spiritually, everything. I didn't want to start blogging at that point because personally i find it hard to connect with blogs and information, or personal reflections which come from a good place, or from the 'after' place, scantily remembering the 'before' place.
I hope, some of my blogs, and honest reflections can be something some people will be able to relate to, and spring board from, maybe even follow some tips, and so if i am a better version of my self a year from now, i want people to be able to go back through if they want to, and see where i was, what i did, how i made changes, so yes it is something important for me personally to have my blogs accessible.
But that aside, i did come to the conclusion that steemit is a great place to start out, familiarise my self with this platform, set up another one once im confident here. Although i am a bit overwhelmed it is the friendliest one i have come across, and already being slightly crypto literate it just made sense. With the added bonus of having great people offering support, you have left so many helpful comments for me today, i really am grateful.
Ah that video was so beautiful to watch! So much time and effort, but i love the process of sweeping it all away, it speaks volumes! My boyfriend and i had a talk about this last week, being the mr butterfingers that he is, he's damaged or broken several of my possessions which yes i really do like. Last week he smashed my favourite cup which was a gift from my God daughter. I could see he was really frustrated and upset about it, i said yes im gutted, but why are you so flustered? It's only a cup. He quizzed me as to why i never seem to get upset at him breaking things! My reply was they are just things, i enjoy using them, looking at them, and yea i think to my self awwwww no it's broken, but im not going to lose my shit about inanimate things!
Most of my girlfriends will throw out items their ex's bought them if they have a breakup, and don't understand why i dont. I try to explain that i really like it, i wont throw it out just because it was from him, you throw it out because you can't disconnect your emotions from the object, you're emotionally tied to it, it has no connection to him other than the one you've mentally conjured. It just all seems a bit silly!
Again i really appreciate you taking time to reply to lots of my posts today! Ill probably be chirping in on several of your other posts, your page seems like my cup of tea!
One additional perspective, from having been here since the start and done fairly “successful” here:
Even though the idea of having our writing history available for others to reach back into, should they feel inspired, sounds great - I’ve found that the reality here is practically no one does.
Maybe it’s part due to short attention spans, maybe part due to the tediousness of scrolling and scrolling further and further back, maybe because there’s something about the nature of this platform in particular that is always putting new content out to the front, that people generally don’t dig too far back, instead just keeping on top of what’s new.
And then, there’s also the point that as we continue to produce new content, it is being written in real-time, thus more relevant and up-to-date - which tends to match where others’ consciousness are at in the moment, our own writing a reflection of the times and tides of the collective.
As well, there’s also the simple point that as we continue writing more and more, the content gets better. having been through more learning cycles, we can bring more into every new piece, condensing the wealth of our past into fewer, more potent words, better-matched to the unfolding moment.
Combining all those points together, it kinda makes sense why people generally anticipate the new versus digging into the old.
And even though the concept of having others retrace our footsteps through years of writing holds merit, sometimes it might be far more powerful to continually offer an updated version of the story from the present moment, summarizing the most recent and relevant version in ways that have a greater impact in less time.
Perhaps these are some of the upsides to this little “flaw,” the gift in the curse, the silver lining in the clouds.
yeah i didn't really look at it that way, i suppose most people wouldn't bother looking at the whole story, everything is fast moving and in the now. Thanks for that, the blogs i produce now will connect with a certain cohort, and the blogs i write a year down the line will connect with a different cohort most likely if i do manage to progress my self i wont quite be the same, and so it makes sense that ill be attracting new people at that time. You're like the steemit philosopher :)
Not sure if it work, but when i faced with such situation and need to refer any older blog, i simply google it with few words from the posts i remember and i get 3 - 4 options and bang on....i get my results in simpler way. Scrolling on steemit is tedious work and it get hang more often. Hopy it works for you as wll.. @rok-sivante
Works if I’m looking for something specific and know the name. Not if I wanna scroll back through everything chronologically.
Thankfully, there was a link provided above to a tool that somewhat works to solve the problem, though it still doesn’t provide nowhere near as a pleasant experience as actually using Steemit.
That is true ...if you wanna search something specific...but yes scrolling on steemit is waste of time...it stuck everytime......may be steemd.com/@yourname may help....
Your problem made me realize that I saved the writing file that I had posted well. Usually I just write directly in Steemit without saving it first on my laptop.
I plan to collect my best writings in Steemit to publish into a book.
When I read your post, I realized that I had to keep my writing file neatly every time after posting in steemit and I thought it could make it easier for me than I had to scrolling back and maybe I no longer found it. I will be frustrated if I can't find my old writing.
Luckily, I haven't been in Steemit for a few months.
About your problem, I apologize for not being able to give you a solution, @rok-sivante
I placed too much trust in this less-than-fully-developed system - or perhaps was just too shortsighted to think I might not want to retrieve my past work...
A curious observation, I see that you pay attention to such subtle details, the truth I do not suspect this problem although if I have heard from friends who have more time than me in @steemit about this detail, I hope they help and help clarify the situation a bit our great community. regards
I’d contend this isn’t exactly a “subtle detail,” but rather a major flaw that needs diligent attending to if this platform hopes to attract and retain a growing user base of professional writers.
That an author is unable to access the entire history of their content in no small issue. It’s a pretty fucking big deal.
"That an author is unable to access the entire history of their content in no small issue. It’s a pretty fucking big deal" . .
it's a wonderful way to say it haha you're absolutely right
@rok-sivante As lame as it is, I believe it is intentional and not a glitch. @creatr has lamented this before, several months earlier. I'm not sure if Steemit, Inc. made the decision in order to make the site somehow run smoother/faster or if they think 1 year old+ posts are "irrelevant."
Either way, I would like to see this addressed. Part of the blockchain's point for me is that the content is always preserved and accessible, so why would you build a front end that manually expires it? There are still so many issues with mainline 'Steemit.com' that are barriers to wider adoption.
Yeah. Kinda sad that stuff like this hasn’t been addressed and fixed in the two years we’ve been building, though guess it is what it is for the time being...
I keep a list of my posts in Excel but I think I may have missed some.
That's one way. I also use steemsql for extract sometimes, that's another way. The third way is to search on steemit or even google using your account name and what the title could be.
If you need help extract a list for a date range, let me know.
There was a link provided above to some tool that works in Chrome - not Safari... isn’t a great UI and still a disappointment that can’t do it the normal way, nonetheless is a workaround in the meantime...
The normal way is to keep track myself/yourself. :-)
Even with steemsql, I have a list to track go back.
Actually it's faster then scrolling back list of my post back a year.
Not the most appealing proposition to lure in a growing community of professional content creators, however... :-/
I know but I'm one who believe to always have my own back.
Smart. 😎
Just the fear of losing or wasting time.
Here's a link to said workaround, hosted on my github pages site. I made tweaks so that it should work in Safari now, but I haven't been able to confirm yet.
Thanks. Safari is never my issue though. I'm too cheap for Macs and iPhones. :-)
That isn't cool.We need them for posterity sake.Countless hours have gone into the making of those posts so they are relevant to us besides it is something of a legacy that we can leave to our children.I started using the steempress plugin so i now have sort of a backup of all my posts offsite.
@rok-sivante, First of all it's really unfortunate for sure and that is because, when we are talking about the Decentralised Economy then for sure we should see effectivity in that way.
But, if we are not able to find one year back posts then that's really unfortunate aspect for sure because our work backed with the time and effort and if it's not accessible then that's an negative aspect.
And in my opinion Steemit Team should consider this aspect because we never know which post can help us and for that we have to scroll back and if we fail to get the post that's an discouraging aspect.
Let's hope that, over the time we can see more and more improvements. And if we see small small updates then it can bring the big changes and can bring big effects.
Wishing you an great day and stay blessed. 🙂
Yes I've had the same problem using Firefox and it is bollocks.
That didn't used to happen.
I get round it because my Steemit posts are also on my WordPress blog - which works a shitload better than Steemit so I can easily find my old posts.
When I first started using Steemit two years ago people were saying ditch Wordpress and do it all on Steemit. Crap like this pisses me off sometimes.
Yeah, there is definitely a clear advantage displayed in backing up on multiple platforms...
Hello sir...@rok-sivante
Just read your post and I didn't see what I expected to see... I'm so sorry for the bug you noticed... I'm sure this as been a long time thing but most people seem not to notice because they probably don't check thier past works.
As for me, I may also not notice because I have an application (Writer plus) - supports markdown/html in which I write my articles and add images before taking it down to post.
I understand the fact that you have every right to be upset, if it happened to me I'll probably get upset too, but this is not much of an issue if I'll say, because there are so many ways you can rectify this...
You should try http://steemd.com/@rok-sivante, you should be able to get all your past work there starting from the day you joined Steemit...
And I'm so sorry for the experience, I know how annoying and frustrating it can be, but this shouldn't stop you from blogging...
It's just to make you aware once again that nothing comes totally perfect, Shit happens. Just let it go.Oh dear, i wasn't aware of this, this is making me seriously re-consider using steemit as a blogging platform! I am so glad i saw this.
I wouldn’t let this alone fully deter you, although I understand 100% why it would.
Despite it, there still are a number of reasons why to use it - the reward system being one, although perhaps the strongest being the community. There really are alot of great people to connect with here, and it is an excellent platform to grow relationships with readers that don’t really take place on other platforms.
I’d truly hope that now the issue is being brought to attention, the development team will sort it out such that in a year’s time, it’ll no longer be a concern. Though even if it weren’t handled, the benefits would still likely justify the flaw - and as per some of the other suggestion in the comments thread, there are ways of managing it: whether keeping a list of posts for your own reference, saving your writings offline, or also having a wordpress blog where they can be stored & accesses indefinitely while using the SteemPress plugin to syndicate them over here.
I know, all that is a bit of a pain in the ass and a discouraging deterent. Though nonetheless, having experienced everything I have on Steemit since the start, I’d advise that it’d probably be a far better strategic move to utilize this and another platform together, if having access to your entire history of writing it critically important.
(And then there’s also a different strategy altogether of letting certain works fade away with time, letting them serve their time and place in the moment, focused more in keeping the flow in the present than preserving the past, working for constant improvement for creating anew than holding onto what’s time has past - similar to the philosophy embodied in the Tibetan Buddhist practice of putting up to five years into the creation of sand mandalas, only to brush them all away when complete...
*Something of an aside, though well-worth the 3-minute watch:
I was thinking about this whilst driving this afternoon. The reason i chose steemit was because it's all in one place, i looked into wordpress and a few others, for which you need a hosting site etc, this just seemed simple. And yes the rewards system was far more appealing as it's pretty straight forward. I know nothing of blogging or how to make money writing them, that's not my ultimate goal but of course if i can potentially earn some money then i want to do that, who wouldn't?
The plan i have for my blogs is for it to be like a story, and a reference point for others. I am in the process of making some big changes in my life, and hopefully with time i will be in a much better position mentally, physically, spiritually, everything. I didn't want to start blogging at that point because personally i find it hard to connect with blogs and information, or personal reflections which come from a good place, or from the 'after' place, scantily remembering the 'before' place.
I hope, some of my blogs, and honest reflections can be something some people will be able to relate to, and spring board from, maybe even follow some tips, and so if i am a better version of my self a year from now, i want people to be able to go back through if they want to, and see where i was, what i did, how i made changes, so yes it is something important for me personally to have my blogs accessible.
But that aside, i did come to the conclusion that steemit is a great place to start out, familiarise my self with this platform, set up another one once im confident here. Although i am a bit overwhelmed it is the friendliest one i have come across, and already being slightly crypto literate it just made sense. With the added bonus of having great people offering support, you have left so many helpful comments for me today, i really am grateful.
Ah that video was so beautiful to watch! So much time and effort, but i love the process of sweeping it all away, it speaks volumes! My boyfriend and i had a talk about this last week, being the mr butterfingers that he is, he's damaged or broken several of my possessions which yes i really do like. Last week he smashed my favourite cup which was a gift from my God daughter. I could see he was really frustrated and upset about it, i said yes im gutted, but why are you so flustered? It's only a cup. He quizzed me as to why i never seem to get upset at him breaking things! My reply was they are just things, i enjoy using them, looking at them, and yea i think to my self awwwww no it's broken, but im not going to lose my shit about inanimate things!
Most of my girlfriends will throw out items their ex's bought them if they have a breakup, and don't understand why i dont. I try to explain that i really like it, i wont throw it out just because it was from him, you throw it out because you can't disconnect your emotions from the object, you're emotionally tied to it, it has no connection to him other than the one you've mentally conjured. It just all seems a bit silly!
Again i really appreciate you taking time to reply to lots of my posts today! Ill probably be chirping in on several of your other posts, your page seems like my cup of tea!
One additional perspective, from having been here since the start and done fairly “successful” here:
Even though the idea of having our writing history available for others to reach back into, should they feel inspired, sounds great - I’ve found that the reality here is practically no one does.
Maybe it’s part due to short attention spans, maybe part due to the tediousness of scrolling and scrolling further and further back, maybe because there’s something about the nature of this platform in particular that is always putting new content out to the front, that people generally don’t dig too far back, instead just keeping on top of what’s new.
And then, there’s also the point that as we continue to produce new content, it is being written in real-time, thus more relevant and up-to-date - which tends to match where others’ consciousness are at in the moment, our own writing a reflection of the times and tides of the collective.
As well, there’s also the simple point that as we continue writing more and more, the content gets better. having been through more learning cycles, we can bring more into every new piece, condensing the wealth of our past into fewer, more potent words, better-matched to the unfolding moment.
Combining all those points together, it kinda makes sense why people generally anticipate the new versus digging into the old.
And even though the concept of having others retrace our footsteps through years of writing holds merit, sometimes it might be far more powerful to continually offer an updated version of the story from the present moment, summarizing the most recent and relevant version in ways that have a greater impact in less time.
Perhaps these are some of the upsides to this little “flaw,” the gift in the curse, the silver lining in the clouds.
In any case, just some food for thought...
yeah i didn't really look at it that way, i suppose most people wouldn't bother looking at the whole story, everything is fast moving and in the now. Thanks for that, the blogs i produce now will connect with a certain cohort, and the blogs i write a year down the line will connect with a different cohort most likely if i do manage to progress my self i wont quite be the same, and so it makes sense that ill be attracting new people at that time. You're like the steemit philosopher :)
🙏💗
Not sure if it work, but when i faced with such situation and need to refer any older blog, i simply google it with few words from the posts i remember and i get 3 - 4 options and bang on....i get my results in simpler way. Scrolling on steemit is tedious work and it get hang more often. Hopy it works for you as wll.. @rok-sivante
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Works if I’m looking for something specific and know the name. Not if I wanna scroll back through everything chronologically.
Thankfully, there was a link provided above to a tool that somewhat works to solve the problem, though it still doesn’t provide nowhere near as a pleasant experience as actually using Steemit.
Highly disappointing.
That is true ...if you wanna search something specific...but yes scrolling on steemit is waste of time...it stuck everytime......may be steemd.com/@yourname may help....
Posted using Partiko Android
Your problem made me realize that I saved the writing file that I had posted well. Usually I just write directly in Steemit without saving it first on my laptop.
I plan to collect my best writings in Steemit to publish into a book.
When I read your post, I realized that I had to keep my writing file neatly every time after posting in steemit and I thought it could make it easier for me than I had to scrolling back and maybe I no longer found it. I will be frustrated if I can't find my old writing.
Luckily, I haven't been in Steemit for a few months.
About your problem, I apologize for not being able to give you a solution, @rok-sivante
Good call on backing up your writing!
I placed too much trust in this less-than-fully-developed system - or perhaps was just too shortsighted to think I might not want to retrieve my past work...
A curious observation, I see that you pay attention to such subtle details, the truth I do not suspect this problem although if I have heard from friends who have more time than me in @steemit about this detail, I hope they help and help clarify the situation a bit our great community. regards
I’d contend this isn’t exactly a “subtle detail,” but rather a major flaw that needs diligent attending to if this platform hopes to attract and retain a growing user base of professional writers.
That an author is unable to access the entire history of their content in no small issue. It’s a pretty fucking big deal.
"That an author is unable to access the entire history of their content in no small issue. It’s a pretty fucking big deal" . .
it's a wonderful way to say it haha you're absolutely right