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8 years ago in #philosophy by rok-sivante (75)
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Wait, so Optimus Prime is part of Anonymous? Heheh.
I turned the video off after about 15 minutes. "Establish a powerful government" seems like a message completely counter to Anonymous' other messages up to this point. This, to me, seems like an attempt to commandeer the Anonymous brand for their own message while attempting to discredit and silence them in the process. "A new order of law"?? The people who made this video don't even understand what anarchy is (which Anonymous certainly does). Or, if they do understand it, they are lying about its true nature.
Some quick googling shows Anonymous has already doxxed a Mr. Nemelka (something I don't support, so I won't link to anything they've published) who they claim is a Mormon cult leader behind this whole message. Spreading this information around, to me, isn't helpful but based on deception. To me, the real fix which can lead to a peaceful society has to do with removing the myth of authority from our thinking. Everything else is just another form of slavery. True freedom requires no rulers, only voluntarily followed leaders. Good ideas don't require force or coercion and governments have always attempted to maintain a monopoly on the initiation of force, imprisoning people for victimless crimes while spreading war and fear around the world. Looking to some new government authority in the "human party" seems like more of the same to me.
well-stated.
yeah - who knows whether this is the "real" Anonymous or not. or for that matter, what could be verified as the "real" Anonymous at this point? surely, there are many who've latched onto the group's image and certain parts of their philosophies, taking and running with it in their own ways. I really don't know enough about the history, inner workings, etc to confidently state what's what - hence, the acknowledgement that there have been people calling his Humanity Party a fraudulent 'identity theft' or whatnot (although those presentations really don't seem very strong at all).
also why I took the angle, stating that any such ideological "party" is likely to fail - and raising the question of how WE, ourselves may be able to advance change towards our own ideals.
it'd be interesting IF such a party like this were real and DID get into "power" - how that would all play out. if it went down according to their creed, I wouldn't expect it to be authoritarian at all.
but, as stated - and probably didn't even need stating - such is unlikely.
and hence, better the focus directed on what can be done ourselves at the grassroots level, using the technology, knowledge, collaborative tools, creativity, and human resources within our reach to get making those differences that government never will...
To me, the foundational ideas around authority and government presented here seem to be in stark contrast to those of Anonymous.
For a more real-world example of what you might be describing, I find the Pirate Party quite interesting.
— The Pirate Party's 4th declaration of principlesI've been very impressed with Rick Falkvinge's writings, and his early support of Bitcoin got me more excited about it as well.
"Do they have a realistic chance of gaining enough attention in the next few months to outvote Trump & Clinton?"
Ongoing experiment on STEEMIT - new community, new voting system, no 1-man 1-voice, but more responsible (maybe - we'll see it in the nearest future) POS system.
Then futarchy, quadratic voting - great changes coming. Steem might become a working prototype.
the question, "working prototype of/for what...?
so much opportunity & potential for development. especially once people start integrating github projects and that, leveraging the ecosystem, getting really creative with the fusion of ideas, tech developments, and financial infrastructure... may need an overdose of some proper psychedelics to even begin comprehending what could lie ahead...
Prototype of effective society. Not all so terrible. We have now big problems with political system. Well known problem in games theory - prisoners dilemma (shit, no editor in comments, cannot insert link - details in wiki). In short: We have a group of rationally thinking actors. Their incentives are different, maybe even opposite, but rational. Prisoners dilemma states that such community can often come to solution which is wrong for everybody yet every single person minded his own interests. It is very complex problem but it must be solved.
I have become a fan of HUMANITY PARTY.. You will get my vote for sure
The problem are not the politicians or the bankers, they are symptoms of a disorder, the root cause is the monetary sistem.
the monetary system is one piece, a big one surely. however, not the only one.
largely a matter of consciousness, education, cultural coding. changing the financial system wouldn't automatically upgrade people's thinking, attitudes, knowledge, and wisdom...
Exactly. You have hit the nail right on the head
Anonymous is RESISTANCE against Control So I SUPPORT IT !
I like your article, because it teaches something good
cool to see you're from Indonesia, Ulfa. I live in Bali. :-)
can' speak indonesia.
I broke out in Aceh
Sama saya !!! 🌴
Hey rok-sivante,
I took the time to watch the video. Really interesting. Seeing how the world changes I am sure that good times will come to those who seek it.
The truth will always find its way. The good will always win
I nearly missed this ! I cannot keep up anymore , following all good posts on this site . I wish steemit would improve how I can see stuff from people I am interested in . I'm getting already tired of the log in issues :( watching the video clip now
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