Why does Steemit encourage lifting off articles from web and pasting here?
There is no other way to say it, but why the fack does Steemit encourage 'copy/paste' of articles from sources.
What about copy/pasting the articles without so much as 'reference' or 'attribution'. What is more painful is that Steemit has tools at its disposal. Look at this (I am assuming this is a bot, because it says so) - why UPVOTE instead of flagging the article? If the author continues the trend of copy/paste/plagiarism - why not ban?
I don't understand it!
Some of us bust of our asses off to put the information together, read through tons of information and bring distilled articles to Steemians while some people just copy/paste WHOLE articles into Steemit.
Anyone else felt frustrated about this behavior? I am not sure if 'flagging' will be enough especially when Steemit's bot itself is finding that the information is just a lift off from the internet and dishing out 'upvotes'?
Very true, except copying and pasting stuff generally doesn't go unpunished - the punishment is in the payout - nobody with any clout will upvote anything that has been copied, so Cheetahbot is the kiss of death.
Because you are new your post payouts are still low anyway, but give it a while and you will see just what copying stuff pays!
Thanks for the info, I'm just new here so this comment of yours is very helpful.
Good explanation, thanks
good view on this, i also wondered with that. Unique valuable content is the only way to give somehing from my point of view. And yes only hard work will generate really good content. I hope Cheetahbot is such curse for the copycat else steemit and the community would suffocate from junky information.
it's about promoting great content, if you find something online worth sharing, then share it, and be rewarded, not rewarded for creating.
i think that its a valuable thing
creating original pieces is great too btw, don't get me wrong, but i think sharing good stuff is worth it.
for example theres a photographer i like, chris burkard, i shared some of his pictures, chris got publicity, i got upvotes, and other people got to learn about him and enjoy his photos
You did it, you referenced Chris Burkard - that is called - sharing and promoting. the other where you jut copy/paste without any attribution is called 'stealing', the difference in etiquette is minor but the effect major!
oh I understand, I think the plagiarism is very bad, but the cheetah I believe is designed to help eliminate plagiarism by giving credit to the original author.
my understanding is to name the source if i cite or take the whole article. If not something is wrong, but that's because Cheetahbot is so valuable for the community without any emotions it identifies third party content.
Idk why people do that. I literally go over to reddit and I see people just pasting articles on reddit subs here lol with pretty much nothing of substance added. Its the made rush to make money, you can see it in peoples comments and the faux feel good attitude
That is the sort of behavior I was referring to...if we just 'clone' internet - we will degrade the value of Steemit! My opinion.
This is from the Steemit FAQ:
Buyer beware, I don't think there's monetary reward for @cheetah's upvote.
Note that it does not say "developed by Steemit."
There are a lot of people who do work to try and improve this platform for the benefit of the entire community.
I don't have issue with copy/paste - I reference/use YouTube videos all the time, but a small attribution will let users know that you have borrowed the information, I hope I am making it clear as to what I mean!
Maybe you can point out to me where Steemit is encouraging people to do this?
The whole idea is that this is an open platform where the community decides, not some centralized almighty Zuckerberg who decides what can & can't be done.
@cheetah points out that material may have come from somewhere else so that the community can decide if the post should be upvoted, flagged or ignored.
it was presumptuous on my part to state 'encouraging' I should have said 'noting but not flagging' ONLY when its not properly referenced...thank you for your note blindsquirl
I understand your frustration.
I don't know how to describe it but, Steemit is a huge departure from what most of us are used to. It's decentralized, there's not any one person or even a core group of people "running" it. And there are a lot of people coming here who don't understand that and are just doing what they've always done. i.e cutting & pasting shit.
There are also people here who have figured out how to game the system and make huge money posting that same shit for consumption by other shitty whale-wanna-be's.
But there's a lot of really good content here too, you've just gotta wade through a lot of shit to find it.
That is a problem from quality perspective in the long run for such a revolutionary platform
Several people have pointed out to me that this is still a Beta version of Steemit. I'm willing to give it time.
If nothing else, it occupies hours and hours of my time composing rants that my family doesn't have to bear the brunt of. ;-)
I am willing to wait too just pointing put so someone takes notice...
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STOPIt's all about giving the appropriate credit to the original creator for his efforts!
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Appreciate that - resteem helps raise this up and forward and hopefully a solution that is motivating to all will emerge
Well well, at least some one brought up the topic, which was going on our minds. And sometimes its very deceiving with so many with many avatar's calling themselves bots, all i could see is "Hi i'm a bot you should do this and do that". But isn't it necessary for them to have certain badge or particular Avatar which only they can use, so we can actually differentiate between a user and a bot. Also would love to know how appropriate is it to just share someone else's videos from other sites and not even care to attribute them. @rkreddy: Thanks for sharing.
Cheetah used to downvote, but many people posted from their own site. If you see a cheetah comment, go research the post before upvoting to know if someone just copy-pasted to try to make money without doing anything... lol
that is one way to go about it!
There are accounts that copy paste from elsewhere, and get upvoted by many whale accounts, like zer0hedge on Steemit. That account, who knows if its even someone from the site, but someone just pastes over some articles and the whales pump it up. Copy paste easy money, and the whales support it to give them that easy money. It makes you wonder if they aren't the ones hiring someone to post on them so they can pump them up and split rewards lol.
That is a problem in the long run for serious/sincere Steemians!