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RE: "Central Premise & Proposals" - A Series About Fixing Steemit - Part 4

in #steemit6 years ago

@sircork,

You guys are still confused about the word "decentralized" and until you understand what it means, this conversation cannot proceed.

you can submit a change, if its good for the people, and platform, it will go in.

There is no "overlords" to do all this magic you guys dream up.

Let me explain a bit of straight-line logic:

  1. A whole bunch of users decide they want bidbots banned.
  2. They start unvoting any Witness who doesn't agree to ban bidbots, and cast their votes for Witnesses who do.
  3. A majority of Witnesses now want to ban bidbots.
  4. The Witnesses vote ... the bidbots get banned.

Apply that same logic to all the other proposals that I made.

Where's the impossibility you keep speaking of? Where's the tyranny and dictatorship with which you seem so obsessed? This is how representative democracy works.

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@Sircork already handled it, but, by all means, explain how the blockchain can code out bidbots.

That was a rhetorical request. You can't, as all the functions performed by bidbots can be performed by live people. Moreover, you can't ban accounts without duplicating account keys, which would quite literally destroy Steemit, as no one is going to trust having a wallet that someone else has access to.

That enough straight-line logic for you?

@anarcho-andrei,

I addressed all this in another reply in this thread. You guys seem to think that computer code is the only way anything can be accomplished. It isn't.

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Because the witnesses, like me, and the others, whom all regularly speak to each other, already know you cannot eliminate them. It's a technical impossibility. You'll argue, because you still haven't done any research, or you'd already know that prior to bid bots, votes were just sold direct. Via chat, dm, wallet memo, whatever. The market YOU see, is just the 7-11 that consumers demanded to save a trip to the grocery store, and they are quite happy to pay the markup on the gallon of milk.

They elect US because we DO understand how it works and what we can and cannot control or SHOULD attempt to control if a technical solution is feasible.

THAT is how representative democracy works. And currently bots exist because a segment of the community wants them. They democratically, via market pressure and resistance, created a component in the free market YOU don't like. That's really not a witness's problem to solve for you.

SO try to figure out which witnesses dont use or support or OPERATE bots, and you'll quickly find that these people you are vehemently fighting for are using them, despite you.

And so you can save a post, nah, I dont fuck with em much. I might bot something if the community needs to see it, like the one time I trended one to tell everyone dmania was cryptomining on their computers. It shut him down for months. It only came back weeks ago. Clean. And I will also add, that was encouraged by MOST witnesses in #witness and was suggested to me by a top 20, when it had never even occurred to me to do so. But it worked just fine.

I dont think Ive looked at the trending page since then and rarely did before. Users here don't. The successful ones are far to busy to sit around arm chair quarterbacking, we're too busy making money and building the future of this place.

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