RE: Community Service Announcement: You Control Steem. Vote for Witnesses.
I have been called a "whale" by the downvoters who are foisting this poorly executed and divisive "experiment" upon us. This despite the fact that I have not even a 1/10th of the stake of the downvoters and I have been buying in and powering up while they cash out. I was never invited to any "whale" meeting to discuss how we should best vote, but I have been threatened with, and subjected to, retaliatory downvotes if I don't comply with their agenda.
And they are being PAID as witnesses. While I have been putting in 7 day weeks and 14 hour unpaid days actually reading and consciously voting and community building, they employ voting bots to blindly counteract my voting decisions. These are decisions that I determine (and use stake purchased with hard earned money) reward those who are also community building. And yes, I do vote for myself. Because I spent, out of pocket, thousands of dollars attending Steemfest (which most people took subsidies to attend). More recently I paid my way to Anarchapulco, to promote Steemit at Cryptopulco Day, while these PAID downvoters were nary to be seen.
You call me a whale, but don't invite me to your whale meetings. You take the money which I bring into the platform and cash out part of your huge stakes. Then bully me to follow your agenda?
I have removed my vote from witnesses who downvote.
Thank you so much for all that you have done and are doing to try and make this place better. Not only do you encourage people to create cool content, you are also spreading the word. Thank you! I really hope you are given back your right to vote on content you find valuable without having to worry that your vote may lead to the content creator being punished.
Respectful, as always.
As the only whale (by my definition, >= 800MVESTS) that is still actively voting with full weight, I wish you go on voting wisely as you have been doing, so I don't have to downvote. Better use my voting power elsewhere. What we're doing, is in the hope of wider reward distribution, to satisfy more users, but less concentration on a few authors. If you think it's threat, so be it.
To get the work done, I have been putting in 12+ hours a day manually (down) voting with zero return, while you can upvote to get some curation rewards, and sometime on your own contents to get author rewards. Please be aware, by voting for yourself, you're not taking money from my pocket, but from the public pool, or say, from other authors' pocket. Yes, it's your stake, you have the right to vote with it as you see fit.
I haven't been to steemfest, so haven't cost anyone's money. But I did donate a few bulks.
Also, same as @smooth said, your stake is more than 1/10 of mine, although it's less than 1/10 of the combination of mine and @smooth's. Just hope you can realize that you have the power. With greater power comes greater responsibility.
I have the chance to sell most of my stake around 3$, but I didn't do it, to give the market less sell pressure. I powered up the @adm account to help @steemcleaners. I converted a lot of my SBD to STEEM at around 15 cents, to help the pegging; when I got the STEEM from the conversion, I powered up most of them. I've never powered down my witness pay after July.
Witnesses are paid to produce blocks, to secure the network, it's nothing to do with voting on the website. There are server costs and man hours and skills required, need to be standby 24x7. If you think we don't worth your vote, it's your right.
By the way, if you want to "attend the whale meeting", please contact @ned.
You say: "respectful, as always"
Well then,
why assume that your decision as to whether a full power vote is wise or not is superior to mine? How do you know what criteria I use when I vote? Why would you think that your criteria are more enlightened than mine? They may be .... but they might not be too.
In the absence of any effort at all on your part to reach a reasoned mutual agreement with me on the wisest course of action for the steemit platform - downvoting makes it appear that you lack respect for my decisions on how to vote my stake. It is a bullying use of power to negate my will. It thus appears to me that you are in violation of the Non Aggression Principle and your actions would be judged immoral by those who seek voluntary interactions between individuals .
absolutely agree. a lot of people here (young people, I hope) seems not to see that how things are done do matters a lot. It matters also when you look at a future built by winning bullies.
Good point. If you know how it can be done better, please teach us. Or would you like to do it for us? Many thanks.
I should know what you are doing, in order to suggest other ways. If it is just a wargame, I don't think to have any hint for you to do it better. If the purpose is another one, I don't know which it is. (Well, I know what you and other gamers say about it, but words are just words, in the real world. Sorry.)
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This doesn't help..
I've explained the purpose above, quoted below:
Reasons in this post: https://steemit.com/steem/@abit/definition-of-a-whale-and-a-whale-like-group-and-the-math-behind
Thanks.
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More info:
https://steemit.com/steem/@timcliff/the-whale-voting-experiment-explained-including-downvotes-from-abit
https://steemit.com/experiment/@timcliff/the-whale-no-vote-experiment-whale-participation-data
thx for your reply. I already had read those post and their comment threads. Still can't see the purpose. (Btw, I often wander, in my time on Steemit, why people assumes as true that a larger distribution of voting power is surely a good thing, in order to have the platform growing up. And that implementing that larger distrubution of vp by means of legit violence and power has positive effects and negligible consequences.)
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The ultimate purpose: A hope of more adoption, then, a hope of higher value of this platform (also my holdings)
I don't know either. So sometimes wanted to try something new.
Agree.
Fair.
You make your decision on how to vote your stake, I make my decision on mine.
The Buddha said things aren't as they appear, nor are they otherwise.
Bullying? Please, you can not see the value of this experiment, we understand that, everyone sees that, you denigrate the efforts of those participating because they didn't approach you personally, we understand that, it's ok, you simply want to be considered, like everyone else, that's what's ironic about this, you ignored the effort that abit expressed which is ENORMOUS, and called it bullying, but it's about considering people that don't have as much ridiculous wealth like you, don't make me laugh at the non aggression principle, WE ARE ON THE INTERNET, you realize that right? It appears like real life, buy it's only 1's and 0's.
Consider abit first, maybe he will consider you too.
Your attitude is best summed up by your user name :-)
Please be nice.
k, meh.
You have a lot more than 1/10 of my stake and anyway my bot hasn't been reacting to your votes in any way. I can't speak for others.
The voting page only allows to vote for people in the top 50 when i tried to enter another name in the box, it failed, several times. So i have 30 votes to use, so what did i do? Like many people will do, i just randomly selected 30 people. I am not a fan of voting anyhow, do i have to vote? Can i not vote? Would really love the option to turn of my voting rights, voting never makes anything right, the right people never get into power.
For example, i did not see your name on the top 50 list, but clearly, if i could of gave all my votes to one person it would be you. You have the right ethics, but we all know in life, it counts for very little and just like in life, here on Steem, its not what you know, its who you know.
Very easy to see why the system here is a train wreck and why the price of steem is going to hell. All the good , hard working, HONEST people are leaving because they know they cant beat the powerful whales with the bots.
Keep on trying to beat the system.
If they have never found a block you can't vote for them. You can't vote for just anyone they have to be running a node and at least have witnessed one block. If they have you should be able to vote for them.
Thank you Fubar, things are so complicated around here, its hard to know how most of it works, so many thanks for this info.
You earned(paid for it) your steem power the hard way and if you had a witness I would be voting for it!