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RE: an open letter to @ned

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

Steem was nothing but 6 guys when we started. Dan was an integral, catalyzing part - meaning yeah there’d be no steem without him - but there’d be no Steem without the others too - would Dan have built something else? Sure. Would it have been a success? can’t be said. It’s the same for the Eos “team”. The entire founding team of Steem were integral for their strengths. Steem development has gone from worth nothing to near failure and back again several times. Just read the SMT paper if you think this all has to do with one person. We happen to be stronger than ever. Im now working with the most talented CTO I’ve ever had the privelege to, Harry Schmidt. And we have only been growing since Dan left Steem at an all time low. Just look at the STEEM price.

So do I thank Dan for his talents and years of work - yes very much for specific moments and times I certainly do. On the whole do I thank him? On the whole, Im neutral, there were a lot of mistakes and worse that balance it out, and I’m certainly not thanking him for continuing to grow Steem. Better to clean break and move on, and we build, and old hats stop holding on to past projects crafting potential to scoop this community into a new, less competitive, evvacuous bucket. They have something like $3B USD - more than enough to go to market without clinging to old hen house riling up the roost for interpersonal, competitive reasons.

In light of all these “competitors” I vastly prefer Steem and SMTs for its application specific advantages as we tokenize the web.

More on SMTs at https://SMT.Steem.io

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Thanks for the responses Ned. Good job delegating to zappl too! That's a good move.

I'm sorry if I seem like a huge asshole. That's not my intention.

I get where your coming from though. I respect you, and I want nothing but the best for Steem.

This is a social media platform. So as a social media platform you need to allow anyone who wants to use this social media platform to use it (even Dan, even Tom from Myspace, even mark Zuckerberg, or the LBRY team, whoever). Even if they talk about a competing platform.

People on Steem are constantly poaching people from Reddit and Facebook.

To me this is saying it's ok to go on a social media sites to bring people to Steem, but to come to Steem and encourage a different social media sites is a crime.

Just take the first mover advantage. As well as all the work the community has put in and allow/help it be great. Dtube, dlive, zappl, dmania all community/user created.. all very good for the Steem blockchain.

What I want and I feel like others would want is you and Dan to come as competitors and blockchain enthusiasts and to make EOS and Steem interoperable. Team up with LBRY and make them interoperable too! Golos even. Make the best user interface and user experience, and win that way.. while remaining blockchain inclusive!

Compromise is where both parties walk away unhappy.. and that's what I wish you and Dan could do. Make it so my post here could be put on Golos, and LBRY, and Ong social, and even a future EOS competitor!

yes it doesn’t matter who posts or if they compete—but steem’s ex cto should be frank about competing rather than darkly subversive while plotting the public version of his competitive launch—frankly I’ve done all of us a favor—particularly dan so he can stop being shady about his project and coy about his competitive plan—and us because its well worth competing if there must be competition—frankly his project can’t with quality replicate SMTs and I’m more than ready to compete

I am glad to hear it! You guys are both out on the edge of something new. I believe you both care about liberty and freedom, and you both want to make the world better. It still just sucks that there has to be lines drawn and weapons ready because business is a battlefield.

I will not power down the Steem I have. I would go down on the ship with all the awesome people I've met. I think the clouds will part and it will turn into a cruise ship to the moon.. and I wish you the best of luck captain @ned. I look forward to the Hivemind and SMTs.

Wow, I will definitely be investing in eos. Thanks for sharing.

So some history. I have 35 years in the technology industry. I've won an award from the president of the united states for my service on his initiatives in the 90s. I am a former NASA consultant. And I was more recently the Director of Technology for a social network of all things, and now am a VP of Technology for a SaaS company. To wit, we are on my playing field here.

Fact, whatever Dan does will be a competitor to you, it's his frigging career skill, man.

Fact, what you did is ridiculous, and demands an apology to your customers, ALL of us, for your reactionary behavior. Try to spin it as foresight all you want, but anybody with 20 seconds in this industry knows better than that right now, and it's embarrassing to watch and incredibly damaging to the platform and ecosystem which extends well beyond Steemit, Inc, and will survive well beyond Steemit, Inc at this rate.

Now, I too have a feud going down on the platform where I took the role of Dan against someone in your shoes. So I get it, you'e scared of his potential to win just like @aggroed is of me.

I left PAL/MSP as a dedicated leader, who built their crown jewel, MSP Waves Network, then went on to form a new competing network called SteemStar Network, and the worlds first block chain transparent, community fueled worldwide humanitarian aid organization, now doing work in seven countries and powered by generous steemians, nearly all of them the smallest minnows, not you whales, who still optimistically come here and believe in the dream you all sold them.

Then you do this shit.

I can't condone it, and have yet to hear any remorse, regret or apology from you, and that's remarkably poor form right now.

Right or wrong, suck it up buttercup. This is your directive from the people who make or break this place and it resonates in every.single.comment on all the threads on this topic, except by the youngest, newest people who have no idea what has really been going on here for months.

You've battled Dan on every post since he left. But this is a decentralized network, so if you can empower bikini clad ramen recipe posters to scam 35K out of the pool every week here, likewise, @dan can post whatever he wants.

After all, he is pretty clear on how it works. Are you?

PS - the SMT commercials are getting old now. Produce the 2016 and 2017 roadmaps first maybe?

You just said what I wanted to say, when I saw this latest upvotes/downvotes hugger mugger and mini scandal.

I'm presently embarrassed to recommend the platform to serious people like academics or businesspersons, my actual community. Serious people don't play games. Yet they're the only ones who can typically vest to any great extent and help get the ball rolling qualitywise.

Right now, what'll happen? They browse for a few minutes, see 3000$ comments and 300$ "no"'s, revenge flaggings, trending spam with bought upvotes from bots, and just wonder why I ever told them about this site.

And they won't look back. First impressions are nearly impossible to shake. Market position in the mind of the prospect is broken at that point. That's why statistical learning from the 1950s, which didn't impress when computers were too slow and data too sparse, was rebranded as deep learning, as if new research, in 2010s.

Which is not good, because this platform has amazing potential to change the world.

Amazing that even ned, who did a great thing by creating it, doesn't fully understand it, that which he created.

the websites on Steem have plenty of unorthodox and great turn offs—in the flags and lack of trending quality—we have many solutions in progress..checkout Steemit/Hivemind in GitHub for one..SMTs will be another..interfaces dealing with Spam is another,just like Reddit and others do..no silver bullets..don’t get sold one

There is one thing that can be done now, I suggest. I'm aware there's no silver bullet for low quality content, flags, and spam.

SMTs may improve things in the future, bring more stake to quality activities, yes, but there is, however, something simple and easy that can be done now to help deal with the above issues:

Installing MathJax (async) or KaTeX (sync) on the servers which typeset Steemit.

I'm thinking of bringing people from MathOverflow. — Steemit with LaTeX is an easy pitch there — monetized arXiv with archived comments. That community might be helpful. Spam lasts average ten to fifteen minutes there.

More serious people, like scientists are joining; but the rate can be improved.

LaTeX typesetting allows Steemit to absorb MathOverflow and other existing communities which have individuals willing to curate for quality and having the resources to vest in sufficiently larges stakes to make a difference. They might make a big difference, if they come here to play, — help deal with all the current problems.

Larger systems behave differently from a smaller ones — in this case better. A stubborn minority dedicated to quality can have a disproportionate impact, if there are sufficiently many people in it. In this case, a positive impact.

I'm discussing with others building a busy.org- like interface, but with MathJax installed, and a little extra code to the post editor. (It's not externally loaded anymore, since a few months ago, so no more security concerns.)

However, if you can get MathJax directly on Steemit, that would not be third party and better. There's no silver bullet; yet there are strategies which make a visible difference. I suggest that would create a feedback that further improves things.

TEST.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Team: I propose we can discuss project COMMUNICATE as comments beneath this post. ... Let's get this Dapp built. ... What do you guys think? ... Is this is a good spot? I like it. ...

Project: Navigate pdf, html video, images, distributed on a decentralized blockchain. Steem. Think Gfycat. Think Scribd. But permanent. Archived. Free. Forever. For you.'

Posting binary in pieces. Reading binary in pieces. Efficiently. So that all users can do this selectively.

Pretty much summarizes it.

First Unit: DMonoid ("Monoid"). @DMonoid ("@Monoid").

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