Why are some people allowed to keep their rewards, but others not?
According to the rich miners who got all their tokens by mining, in order to keep your rewards you need to have a job. If you don't have a job, then you can't keep the rewards from the supporters of your content. All the super whales got their tokens from mining, not through time earned from posting. Yet they want to decide who can and can't get to keep the rewards from supporters they have gained through the time they have posted on the platform.
Can you actually become a whale by posting? Fat chance.
So essentially, you can't be a whale from posting because you have to work a regular job. All the mega whales got that way through early mining when no one was around. So you work, then post, and then if you get successful you can keep your rewards. But I posted for 6 months and just reached 100,000 SP (without a job, posting 3-4 times a day). If you want to be a real whale of 1,000,000+ SP, well that's 5 years of posting 3-4 posts each day. Some people got that just by "ninja mining" for STEEM early on. Others joined early and got into the tens and hundreds of thousands just by posting. Did anyone flag them for making rewards, even if they had no job?
No job = take rewards away
berniesanders says no one can keep all their rewards from Steemit unless they have a job. If you have rewards and no job, you're prime picking for his abusive verbal soup and flagging behavior, as you will read below. He has an intimate disdain and dislike for people who don't have a job. Bernie is allowed to have his "ninja mined" whale status without working for it through posts and supporters like others, but that's ok. Meanwhile those who do put out content and get support can't even think of becoming a whale unless they have a job, because bernie won't let you, because bernie will take your rewards away.
Steemit sure seems like a fair and honest place for people to post in and get rewarded... yup... bernie is saving Stemti with flags! That's how to do it!
If you don't have a job and post often but make few rewards, you're ok. The rich rulers will ignore you.
But if you start to make some money, less than the top trending posters, then you can't keep your rewards it seems (at least that's my case). Other people can make more than you and get to keep their rewards from their supporters, but you're not allowed to keep the rewards from your supporters, even though you make less rewards than others who get to keep their rewards.
If people like what you post, and they upvote the content for the content, then why can some people who make thousands each day from their supporters get to keep their rewards, but others who make much less in a day can't keep their rewards?
Does this make sense?
Even when I posted 1 post in a day, it was still flagged. Even when I posted 1 post after 1 week (8 days), and then didn't post 1 post in a day 5 days later, I was still flagged. I posted 1 post in a 14 day period, 1 post in 2 weeks, and it was still flagged. Can you honestly say this is about rewards or any other bullshit excuse that is being given? It's only about not liking me and wanting to flag me, no matter how many posts I do in a given period of time.
Other people can do 1 post and get hundreds or thousands of dollars and keep their rewards, but I'm not allowed to keep my rewards for 1 post when they are lower rewards than other people. That makes so much sense! Yet people continue to champion flagging me even though I'm not even a top earning poster, while others who make more get no flags. What the hell is going on?
Bernie's dislike for people who don't have standard jobs to keep them busy
Here are some comments that the great berniesanders has made on Steemit. You can see his mindset, his level of consciousness, and how poor his rational capacities are. By the way, none of these are directed at me, but he has made comments to me about how he's justified in flagging me because I don't currently work inthe economic system like others do with a job.
In some cases he says you get rewards by the support from upvoters... that's how Steemit works...
"NONE of your posts get "that many up-votes". That's the beauty of the system, it doesn't reward trash like you. If there were "real truth seekers" visiting your posts, you'd be earning rewards, but, you're not. Again, get a real job you fucking loser."
So you could get to keep rewards, if you got the support from upvoters... seems OK, yet he still has great disdain for people without jobs.
But... then in other cases he says he flagged someone because that person doesn't have a job even though they had the support (which before he said you can get rewards if you have the support)... Or just a response to someone's comment, trying to demean and devalue people based on not having a job...
"Get a fucking job ya schlub."
"Go back to your troll cave with the other jobless losers."
"Isn't it time for you to take your meds? You seem a little out of touch with reality today. Did you get that job bagging groceries at the store with the other slow kids like I suggested?? This is fun!!!! Yaaaaaaay!!!!"
He's a classic bully.
Trolling people who challenge his delusion of "righteous flagging", and tries to dismiss their arguments based on them allegedly not having a job... That's one hell of a great thinker... Having fun flagging people who don't have jobs or have jobs he doesn't respect at all... what a great person...
Supporters do or don't matter?
If you have supporters to gain rewards like how Steemit works, why does it matter if someone has a job or not? Why stop letting Steemit work with supporters allocating rewards, and instead flag away that person's support that gives them rewards?
Why do some people who make thousands each day get to keep their rewards, but others don't?
This is the plutocratic state of Steemit, where petty bullying rich rulers choose who to let keep their rewards, and who to take rewards away from.
Do you see the superiority complex and hatred for those he views as inferior because they don't have a job or a job he doesn't value?
Bernie will save Steemit from the unemployed!
Why is flagging someone for not having a job a valid reason to flag?
So everyone who doesn't have a job, don't come to Steemit. You're not allowed to keep your rewards because the ninja-mined rich ruler says you're not allowed to.
Steemit is the social-media for people who have jobs. If you don't have a job, you're not welcome on Steemit by rich ruling thugs like berniesanders.
Don't come to Steemit to make money like Steemit advertises itself to be, as the social-media you can make money from posting. A rich ruling manager says that Steemit is only a place to make money with social-media IF, IF, you have a job. If you have no job, you're not allowed to make money like others as they flag your rewards away. People who make the most rewards have verified jobs, berniesanders checked himself, right? ;)
Isn't that some rational and consistent management by the rich rulers? You betcha!
Steemit has a big problem of irrational, inconsistent and hypocritical rulers.
* Psst, btw, I don't have a job but I do have gold and silver. I'm not starving. I only recently used STEEM to pay for things in my real life. Other people do it, post about it, and make hundreds of dollars and can keep their rewards posting about how they used their Steem rewards. So why can't I keep the rewards that my supporters allocate for the posts I make? I'm not even posting about paying things with STEEM while others people are... lol.
I guess if you're not me then it's fine. Plenty of other people have money, or do trading and have free time, and they can post and keep all their rewards, even over $1k, but I'm not allowed to keep my rewards that make less. Does that make sense?
You can get more rewards in one day than me, but I'm not allowed keep those lesser rewards?
Some people can make a post and get rewarded in the thousands each day, but others can't post one or more posts and make less rewards? Just because they don't have a job like everyone else?
WHAT?!
Does anyone other than abusive tyrannical rich rulers think this way? They decide who can and can't get rewarded... that's the current state of Steemit.
You can go look at the posts they upvote and the posts they flag, and see their abuse in action. You can go read their comments and see how vile they are towards those they view as economically inferior. If you have no job, you're not allowed to keep you supporter rewards despite making less than others? Other can make much more, but they have jobs it seems, so they are allowed to keep their rewards?
You get rewards from supporters, but the rich rulers who don't like you take them away.
The money was there. You got that money from your supporters. But then all of sudden the money wasn't there. Someone took it away. What's that called in a regular economic model? On Steemit, it's just the way things go, move along...
I can't even keep the rewards from making 1 post in 1 day, while others make thousands each day and get to keep their rewards... I went through months of low rewards like most people. I posted more to get recognized and still didn't make what top authors made. But when I became more successful like others, I'm not allowed to keep the rewards? Is there some magical "cap" on post rewards that some people have to "obey" while others don't? If my 3 posts don't even total one post from top earners... then what the hell am I doing wrong? Let people know how these hidden flagging regulations work... lol. If my posts got over $1,000 each time like other people, sure I would drop down to one post per day as well, just like some of them did. But I'm not there, I make less rewards, yet other people get to keep more rewards. So... flag me but not them?
What do you support Steemit to be?
Keep up the support for berniesanders and his mistreatment of people, degrading people simply if they don't have a job and denying them the same opportunities that other Steemians have of getting rewarded for posting, to build success, etc.
Or you can wake up and see the problem that berniesanders creates on Steemit.
Bernie keeps saying Steemit isn't a job, ok, so what, people are still getting rewarded for posting, why does it need to be a job? Obviously it isn't, but people are getting rewarded... Arguing that Steemit isn't a job means nothing. No one is getting paid like a job, X pay for Y work. But what about the businesses that want to use Steem for the sites? Isn't that one of the selling points for Steemit/Steem? To make Steem into a marketplace? No?
Bernie says Steemit is not a job, and that he will flag you for not having a job... so does that mean companies that use Steemit and make rewards based on their products (like a job now?) aren't allowed to keep their rewards either?
Where would all the conflicts and "flag wars" be without berniesanders creating conflicts by flagging people or posts he doesn't like? Stop supporting his abuse of others. You can see how he views people without jobs as lesser than him and not worthy of the rewards they get.
Who would want to come to a platform that operated this way if they knew beforehand, where you can't keep lesser rewards while others can keep higher rewards? How does that demonstrate a sound, fair and properly functioning platform?
I used to be a big believer in the ability for individuals uniting in the community to deal with issues (especially abuses) as many things have been changed, but abuses of power seem to be untouchable, because the power of money is what rules the community. Those who have the most money make up the rules they want. That's "stake-holder" power. Imagine a corporation that let their stake-holders do things like this. Do you think it would be successful?
I like bernie. Dude tells it like it is. How can I follow him?
Good job
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Get a room already.
Ask yourself what is it that those who insult you intend to receive?
Hint: the answer is exactly what you are providing.
Stop feeding the trolls.
While we agree that Steemit has systemic problems that do require addressing, you're focusing the power of one of those problems on you, instead of minimizing it. I'm not criticizing you personally, although you may feel that I am.
I am pointing out that actions taken have magnified the problem, and actions that can mitigate it. Note that my particular words contain no personal judgements of any persons, and I limit my discussion to the objectified situation - not persons.
You may continue to disagree with my assessment, and that is certainly your prerogative, as it is you that will continue to face the consequences of that campaign. However, I hope you at least give long and objective consideration to the dynamic I have treated, so that you may begin to apply your considerable abilities to efforts potential of success.
Good luck.
You're ignoring the situational differences it seems. Trolls can keep spamming you, but they don't get to take your rewards.
I don't speak, and the flags keep coming. Ignoring the problem won't solve it. If it was just trolling, sure they keep posting but you can ignore it. They aren't in a position to abuse power because they have no power. On Steemit, the SP gives you power to abuse others.
If you don't speak up, you getting getting abused. Don't speak, and it keeps on going. Demonstrated. I will continue to face consequences whether I talk about it or not. At least in talking about it other can become aware of the issues they were previously ignorant about.
I have developed and worked towards some success. What efforts would potentialize greater success? Ignoring the problem? hehehe, you seem to think that's the solution...
What do you mean by success? How would what is happening to me on Steemit compare with the real world? Imagine you sell your product, and people "buy" it with upvotes to allocate rewards. But others can come and remove those "buys" with "unbuys". Where is that persons success? The way flags work doesn't even work in the real world, it's an upside down negative economic model of "unbuying" things. No one would support that. yet on Steemit it is because of the unreal revival of plutocracy to rule the platform.
I don't feed regular trolls, but being mistreated in a systematic way, through the platform systems features, continually, is something you want me to just ignore? How is the problem ever going to be resolved that way?
Thanks for the feedback though, ;)
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OMG, that was the longest post I´ve ever red.
But I have to admit you´ve got a point!
I´m still new to the steem community so in the learning phase and have not a stonelike opinion.
Thanks for stating this.
berniesanders sometimes voted for me and I think he knows that I am a street poet/f2f marketer, and that I have problems working 9-5 with others in a room.
Steem has become oligarchic in a few ways. The old miners (a club of which I am a member, albeit a junior one; I bought a lot of my stake later on) absolutely got an advantage that the system will take decades to correct for. That's unfortunate.
The reputation score system (which I understand was copied wholesale from reddit) is clearly designed to create and protect oligarchies. Some winners/manipulators get high reps early on, and are then protected from ever being brought down, but they are simultaneously the gatekeepers to anyone else increasing their rep.
And of course, the system just got hardforked to allow sybil attacks and vote farming, if I'm not mistaken... Both of which the original protocol was carefully designed to prevent. I'm not saying we should go back, I don't know, but I'm worried we've just cut the economy's femoral artery.
Unfortunately, I suspect that this hard fork will greatly benefit troll farming manipulators and abusers like berbie, as they are the ones who were already sybil attacking the platform and manipulating the rewards/reputation systems to create confusion and swindle the community into taking this platform down a darker path.
We may be able to come back from this, but I'm not certain how. I haven't been watching that closely, to be honest (so take this comment with that grain of salt). In the meantime, I still love the content and creators this system has attracted. But can it last?...