Is Steemit Cooked? due to the The 'Flag' option? - Steemit a failure? But it's OK because Steemit uses 'Websockets.'

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

So i just found the first part of the 'Attack' on Steemit's information flow

Steemcleaners

https://steemit.com/@steemcleaners

These people will come in posing as doing 'vigilant work' while being 'super popular' where as they are likely using VPN and multiple account and being funded by some random agency.

if that sounds paranoid let me just tell you i'm from 'VOAT' actually if that sounds paranoid you are naive and don't know social media at all and you shouldn't be developing one like this.


You can read a bit more about my analysis of social media here:

https://steemit.com/help/@kolin.evans/steemit-flag-button-why-it-s-not-needed-advice-based-on-my-extensive-study-of-social-media-information-flow

Voat was attacked with many of these vectors it always starts with 'doing vigilant work' 'upholding the law' in the name of censoring and or hiding content.

so OK Steemit might be flawed and if content really can be hidden with the flag button then it's a critical flaw and Steemit is 'cooked'

that's the down side ...

here's the upside !

Steemit likely uses 'Websockets' which just means that this is a front end that is using encryption from the Steemit Blockchain to feed content to the browser.

this means in theory any fork of this system can be used (in theory) off really any BlockChain base

Don't get me wrong I love Steemit - and i love the idea of 'SP' and i think tying the 'SP' up in the platform is both genius and good business theory that would have benefited both users , investors and the developers.

However if your content is going to be spammed to oblivion by 'vigilant upholders' (basically Agency spooks posing as both sides of the SJW argument ) then you can write the whole genius of that economy off.

Without engagement REAL engagement from real people the platform will not grow, the best writers will not come and as this is a peer environment they will go where the information is more efficiently organized and not censored.

yeah, I'm that guy that tells you the truth because i have absolutely zero stake in it, so i won't be influenced and i don't care about your feelings.

It's just a fact that if VPN spammers weather they be from NSA Monsanto or fucking Microsoft can spend a little money (or none) and censor content on the platform then you have little more than a failed unpopular 'Myspace' not even that really. you have Reddit but all of the content will be Cat pictures and poems.

Summary

Believe it or not i expected/predicted all of this - here is roughly how i expected the trend to occur:

    1. Reddit ( a long time being destroyed and hit critical dysfunction)
    1. A non decentralized Reddit alternative (that was Voat) that would be attacked but in an exponential timeframe manner we would get :
    1. A decentralized alternative (that's Steemit) and likely this will be attacked though human flaw and naivety (prety much looks like what is happening) if it can't be fixed then
    1. A series of Forks of that decentralized system will occur and will repair the errors of the first system.

Steemit seems to be currently at #3 all of this is very promising and I'm very much glad it exists but while that 'Flag' button exists I presently wouldn't even bother mining it.
it may be pumped etc but all of that stuff is short term if the platform is critically flawed.

So goes the content so goes the crypto and any 'economy'

One possible upside for the developers/investors if they don't want to fix it

Play the 'flawed alternative' card - :

When a real fork comes off that fixes the Errors likely various agencies will try to invest in a flawed alternative - this could be Steemit, the idea here is that the people trying to control the content will try to invest and promote the broken system that they can control.

kind of like well, Bitcoin i suppose.

If that is your system then you may well see an uptick in 'funding' and 'promotion' as the various controller will have to choose to promote their broken alternative against (and while attacking) one of the real successful forks.

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In the meantime, I think they just don't want to fix it, but keep it afloat as long as possible, draining as much as they could. Looks more and more a scam.

i agree with your analysis here :
https://steemit.com/steemit/@kingofchaos/why-would-anybody-buy-this-shitcoin

that there would be a large divergence between what is voted on and what people are 'looking for' but i just put all that down to manipulation, and that could be corrected with simple design fixes.

What can't really be corrected is if the 'flag' option can really 'delete' or render 'unseen' content.

the only possible design fix would be to include a 'flagged' tab at the top which shows all 'flagged' posts and allows for sorting it.

Thanks, the flagging feature is obsolete. The voting system a mess. Reputation should start at zero. The blockchain should have a field for classification of content. The frontend needs user adjustable filters. Views should be weighted in. Problems solved.

But, as I said, I don't think they actually want to fix it. The way it is now they could just keeps the eggs together much better and avoid any serious distribution and dilution. The 104 week rule is just another level to keep the initial liquidity in as few hands as possible.

Hmm don't rule out the divergence of 'coders' to designers.
Something that seems obvious to a designer is not so to many else that's why a dedicated feedback tab would be useful for Beta.

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