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RE: Community Engagement being suppressed by the @asshole account on here w. Flagging everything. My proposed democratic solution - Simple. A Vote.

in #steemit8 years ago

I'll be creating a bot to monitor for his flags and upvote users affected in the next few weeks.

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I worked with @anyx to update the @seraph bot to counter the @asshole downvotes.

Why not double the counterweight, make the flag worthless.

It has more Steem Power, so its votes are worth more.

I saw that, what I meant though was what if the upvoter was 2k SP vs the 1k SP of the down vote, kind of a boost!

We made sure it had more SP than the @asshole account. It cost me around $100 worth of STEEM to give it enough voting power to outgun the account though. It would be expensive to give it double power.

I saw Seraph was upvoting posts he was downvoting. I will make a hero bot to join in the fight against asshole regardless once I get the chance. :D

I Would really just like to see flag's limited. IE: For every 10 upvotes you give, you can give one flag. Problem solved: Allows flags to still be legitmately used, but kills this abuse.

I had not considered that angle which covers a few things. Nice idea.

It does not solve the larger issues addressed in here though namely repeat offenders and harassment that is targeted.

What about you can't flag if you don't post, the numbers can be sorted out, you know, how many posts in a week so you can flag? Personally I would just eliminate flagging, but I know a lot of people are ok with it. I've never seen @asshole post anything.

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Before I started this today, I literally wondered about e/m you first to gather ideas and your ideas as a tech guy but I wanted to let you deal with what you have to deal with. I think it is great you commented, honestly. Would really appreciate your RS and support of this post and your other ideas from the IT side my man.

TY very much for your time!

No worries Barry.

I've never been one to resteem much as I figured people visited my blog to see my content and it can sometimes be a bit much to weed through others blogs that seemingly resteem more than post. Each to their own mind ya!

I'm packing tonight, moving tomorrow, setting up my office again after that and will go into blitzkrieg on development.

@asshole will be nullified once I get the time to do so. :)

LOL, you were just flagged twice by that in account in this thread lol.

Yes, if something would be built into the blockchain/ecosystem, it would solve the issues long term, vs. other one off or repeated more labour intensive bot building or other efforts.

I am excited for your move but not as much as you I bet. Thanks again.

I'll get @asshole sorted out in the next few weeks. Crowd fund 1010 STEEM to overpower his shitty -1% flags and sick my hero bot on him. Should be fun. :)

Quote of the nite. Hero Bot.

lol

Love it man.

No please crowd fund 2x, then match the downvote ie 1% with 1% upvote! Benefit the person who is getting the downvote more than an equal upvote to offset. This is an idea that would be great to implement!

Ha, you were just flagged for that too lol

So, Tim, any input here?

Is the flag actually causing stuff to get hidden?

1/ In general: at their current 1% power settings, not as much, but you would know better.

  • It is largely the principle of the matter and like I was saying, in here and the comments..... and if not this account or abuse, then future ones.

2/ In specific: The flags will affect the new users just getting started more than other more established users but as I said, it is already enough of a challenge on here daily

3/ This kind of stuff gone unchecked creates barriers to onboarding and keeping people.

I submitted this pull request which will hide all the flags from posts/comments. It hasn't been put up onto the live site yet, but it is approved - so it should go up in the next release. Once this is live, the flags from @asshole will not really be noticeable unless they are actually causing the post/comment to be hidden due to a negative voting score.

[Edit] Hopefully @klye's box can counter the posts/comments getting hidden.

Had to reply here for nesting, but TY for your help as always TC.

Always appreciated.

I spent 10 mins of my time going thru and voting up everyone's comments to counter it, so what is my time worth an hour. I know what I would bill people as a consultant.

So there are lots of ways to count the costs here. Not just $ either as I have mentioned a few times.

Have a good night my man.

The complication of upvoting to keep comments visible is it affects voting power - maybe this is the next level of subtletly in the game.

I suspect that the community will find a counter to it soon.

Thanks. For some odd reason - dunno why - @asshole has been going after my posts today. No biggie, just strange.

Don't take it personally.. Just some anti-social neckbeard having a temper tantrum. :)

That's very reassuring :)

Actually, I'm not affected; just scratchin' my head. I don't think it's a neckbeard, I think it's a testing bot of some sort. The thing is too...automatic, volitionless to be an anti-social human. It's more like a swarm of mosquitoes: they fly your way, you get bitten again & again. But then, they fly off and you're left alone.

LOL, so many of us feel that way, and all the comments here like yours, or others and all the clear DOWNVOTES in this post by said account, cements the fact here for everyone to see the problem so they have really not shown the IQ today in terms of high tide marks.

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