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RE: Understanding the Steemit chats

in #steemit7 years ago

Unfortunately, as the platform becomes more and more popular, we will also attract a % of undesirables who are not interested in putting the effort in and simply want a short cut to riches because they believe they are "entitled" to it.
Perhaps we need a way to downvote members with this mentality so they will go away and leave us alone faster. Seeing too many posts of just a video or picture with not much else... clearly not the authors, just too lazy to write their own content. If we are not careful, steemit could become a dumping ground for rubbish content and beggars asking for upvotes... Hope I am wrong here.

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We can downvote though. It's called flagging and it is being used from time to time. People are a bit hesitant to use it though, because flagging has been missused a lot aswell by powerful whales disagreeing with eachother or others. People are scared of getting into a flagging war that they can't win, which results in their own account being shot down to zero. I think this is a very bad thing, because we should be flagging these type of beggar's comments more often. People are trying to explain things left and right. If that doesn't work, I feel flagging is the next logical step.

Still new here but I am guessing flagging is transparent and you are referring to revenge flagging which will destroy the good standing of the innocent person who was trying to moderate time wasting posts in the first place.
If I am right, I guess steemit need to improve their flagging system. Perhaps make the flagger anon and track the reason for flagging, then give an independent panel of steemers reviewing rights in return they can be rewarded with steem for their time and effort. This way Whales cannot not arbitrarily decide another accounts fate just becoz they disagree and likewise the poster who is flagged will have their actions flagged by an independant and unbiased person.
Just my 2 cents worth...

That is exactly what I am referring to, yes.
It would be great if something like that were in place. We do have a thing called steem-cleaners, which is an account that flags plagiarised content. You can drop them a link through steemit.chat if you find something suspicious. I'm not sure if they are also on the hunt for vote/follow beggers/spammers, but this is also a big help in cleaning up the community.

Good advice, thanks
I am learning everyday :)

I have no problem flagging posts that need to be flagged. I just think that people need to stop and think before flagging in some cases.

Not in cases like this, though.

That's very true. Flagging has been missused a lot in the past, but this is quite clear to be honest. Not everyone agrees though and some feel we need to educate, instead of flag. I'm just not sure how long they want to continue trying to educate, before they see it's not working.

Oh yes, this one is extremely clear.

I firmly believe in flagging and education. I've seen it work really well.

Everyone flags the offending material into oblivion. Person makes posts begging to stop or for help recovering their reputation. They find their way over to @neoxian. He charges them for his services. (I like that, because if it costs them money it seems to make them take their second chance more seriously.)

They get things sorted out, and from what I've seen, they at least try to become contributing members of the platform. Now, a lot of them just have shit content and leave pretty lousy comments, but they're at least trying which I have to give them credit for after their previous behavior.

Yeah, that sounds good. Honestly, I know not everyone is a good blogger. I don't mind lousy content and posts, as long as they are heartfelt and meant well. Sure, they won't get many upvotes, but that's a logical way of how the system works. You don't get to be successful as a rocket scientist if you can't actually hold your own in that field, so why should you become successful here if you can't deliver good content?

Atleast if they actually try, I'll appreciate them and be able to have a normal conversation with them. Heck, I'd even be inclined to throw them an upvote once in a while if they proof to be a good conversational partner.

I agree with you completely.

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