How Ethereum / Bitcoin / Alt-coin mania is like the dot com bubble

in #steemit7 years ago

There's a lot of money flowing into crypto currency and many people who were around recognize the similarities between what's happening now and then. I don't invest in many of the ICO's but I am investing in companies that think are going to power the companies of the future. I think we can all agree that this growth is not sustainable. The question becomes, when will it end and who will survive? 

I honestly believe we're in the infancy of a new net, but theres still several problems that need to be resolved. Remember webvan or pets.com? There will be a lot of money flowing in and then flowing out when reality hits and these companies don't earn revenue. There's the big question with decentralization. We will all have to move backwards to the pay-per-minute model of pagers. There's a problem with fee's that is a huge barrier of entry. The network scalability is another huge problem. In a way, it ends up like a ponzi, until some real technology is created that addresses these problems or new techniques/processes are made to pay for them. The only way for this to go mainstream is for people to accept paying for fees everywhere which can then power the network or the fees are masked another way. 

I am a believer of the technology but I do see an uphill battle. As we have seen though this will not end up pretty for most of the companies in the space. What will happen is this first generation, will give birth to the next generation. The strongest of this cohort will survive. 

Some examples of the survivors:

  • Google
  • Apple's return
  • Amazon
  • Ebay
  • Paypal

These companies trained and produced a number of new companies from the people who gained skills during this time. Elon Musk, Peter Theil, Meg Whitman are the most famous, but several alum from google went on to create a number of new companies. I expect the same with this cohort. At first it was Microsoft/Oracle/Apple/Wang/Commodore etc. We constantly see these evolutions in technology that start with a big BOOM then Bust for  alittle bit until things settle. The result is more people with better skills and a better idea to solve problems. Let me know what you think below. 


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I disagree to some extent.

The old models of centralization and network effects almost guaranteed a 'winner-take-all' model. The network effects could be extremely diminished on a decentralized model.

This means you may have hundreds or thousands of companies surviving this round with some revenue and some user base. They all could be 'mild successes' instead of a a handful of victors.

So, you may have many gambling platforms, many storage platforms, many fog and cloud processing platforms all being successful in their own niches and in their own ways without becoming particularly dominant in the market.

Whether that is then deemed a success or failure may depend on your opinion. Its less successful than Google, but opened up a previously unreachable market while still maintaining healthy profit margins.

My question to you is, how would they survive? All these companies will require people to pay fee's for access. In steemit's model, users are rewarded at investor expense. Mild successes, i agree with, but overall there's going to be a shakeup. How does what you say differ from what we have now, minus the fees? Do you think mainstream will honestly pay for privacy for every transaction? Thanks for the comment. Remember altavista, yahoo, goto, lycos, google, We had several search in the early 90's, what did part did centralization play? To people them, they didn't know centralization vs. decentralization, just what worked better. They layman has little concept of centralized vs decentralized. All they know is, no one can help them if they forget their password. I think the same rule applies, but still some smallers ones will live, I was just pointing out some of the more obvious examples.

Well, we are driving commodities to their absolute minimum. Essentially only paying transaction fees to miners and node that are running on the network.

Centralization provided network effects. The more search Google did, the better their ads did. The more storage Box uses, the better deals they can make on their network costs - driving costs down.

Companies working on the blockchain, or ether, won't really have that same concern. People are paying for usage via the transaction fees. Bandwidth costs are abstracted away as well. The network effects are either minimized or far less drastic - depending on the business.

Because you are right - the layman doesn't care. They will if Storj is cheaper than iCloud and at the same time completely secure with no single servers to hack. And, Storj may have slightly lower margins because they have to cut in the any old laptop that wants to share hard drive space, but they'll still be pretty profitable within their niche.

Steemit relies on the network effect. Without investors paying fee's, sustaining the developers, nodes, miners, and users there would be a smaller network. Storj is cool, but how do you handle backups? Lose your key lose your data. Most people ignore backups. iCloud provides that as a service/convenience.

There's also another factor, network traffic will increase everywhere. p2p, this will tax providers quite a bit if it does get bigger along with utility. The main one being network, because users will process overall traffic will increase. In the current model its something like 90/10 10 % of the users use the majority of bandwidth. In peer to peer, this will likely lead to throttling or tiers of data again. All things that hopefully will need to be addressed. The federated model we have now is subsidized by business. So the average person will go from not paying for certain things to paying.

How is it profitable? Through inflation? How do the devs get paid after the initial allocation? What is their incentive to keep building. The only way to earn a return is if someone pays more, but then why would you spend if you don't have to. Things will change for sure. I don't question making progress, just wondering how it will become sustainable.

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